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Tournaments / Re: 17th Rosedale Amateur Championships - October 6
« on: October 01, 2013, 02:59:14 pm »
Registration is now 64, leaving 26 spots left. To make sure you get the shirt size you want, please register by noon tomorrow when we have to put the shirt order end. Still hoping to get at least one more Am 3 Woman and one more Jr. to make them trophy divisions. Here is who's playing:

Am 1 - Advanced   
Peter   Bures
Carl   Pledger
Edwin   Hart
Zeke   Henry
Derrick   Holt
Tyler   Mattoon
Jon   Oakes
Pat    Worthington
Am 2 - Intermediate   
Andrew   Cox
Matt   Dixon
Jeff   Fenton
Jared   Finley
Joe   Hammontree
Rob   Hoesley
Mark   Lienemann
Gregg   Mattoon
Chris   Newbert
Lorenzo   Sauceda
Greg   Seher
David   Steeby
Am 3 - Recreational   
Anthony   Birchfield
Lucas   Biskup
Robert   Bitter
Chris   Blevins
Jim   Breitenstein
Charles   Bryan
Francisco   Garcia
Johnny   Harrison
Earl   Johansen Sr
Jeff   Kelley
Wyatt   Kovich
Sklyer   Latham
Brett   Main
James   Morris Jr
Mike Petrin
Ryan   Richard
Daniel   Starr
Max   Thomas
Sam   Thomas
Nate   Thurston
Am 4 - Novice   
Geoff   Carpenter
Bobby   Dietzel
Brian   Evert
Raymond   Gonzales
Don   Hugo
Steve   Keithley
David   Marshall
Jason   Sherman
Bill   Thomas
Jeremy   Thomas
Women's Am 3   
Jenny   Day
Connie   Winchell
Shawn   Edwards
Eric   Garberg
Marty   Graham
Bob   Slonka
Robert Walker
Kelly   Warren
Kevin    Weiss
Dan Howard
Mark   Mills
Bob   Ward
Junior <16   
Peter   Gossell
Ryan   Marshall

Tournaments / Re: 17th Rosedale Amateur Championships - October 6
« on: September 30, 2013, 04:21:28 pm »
Current registration is 51. Sign-ups continue until 8:30 Sunday morning or until we reach 90 players.


will I still be able to sign up on Friday?

Tournaments / Re: 17th Rosedale Amateur Championships - October 6
« on: September 30, 2013, 09:55:22 am »
is the course set for this yet?

Thanks to Bob Ward, the course should be done by late today. He might have got it done Sunday.

1. Long left  (moves to shortest for round 2)
2. Short
3. Middle
4.  Long middle (near soccer area)  (moves to shortest)
5. Short left
6. Short right
7. Peninsula (long)
8. Island
9. Longest right - by stairs (moves to shortest)
10. Left (by tree)
11. Long center (moves to next to shortest on right)
12. Long right
13. On hill
14. On stairs
15. Short left.
16. Most left near woods (moves to shortest)
17. Next to shortest
18. Third longest (moves to shortest)

Tournaments / Re: 17th Rosedale Amateur Championships - October 6
« on: September 27, 2013, 04:04:20 pm »
The RAC uses PDGA ratings, non-PDGA tournament results, and anecdotal evidence as provided from players with no tournament records in an attempt (perhaps quixotic) to make each division as competitive as we can. Thus, for the Am 1 (AKA Advanced) Division where the best players will be, no one with a rating that exceeds 970 is allowed. I'm not  concerned if they have accepted cash in a PDGA event or won this event previously, as long as their current rating is below 971. What this means it that Joe, with his stellar 995 rating, is no longer eligible for the RAC. I had to go to my sources at the PDGA to find out that Mike, who was last active in the PDGA in 2003, now sports a 971 rating, again too high for the RAC. As for Jamie "Everyone-Is-A-Sandbagger" Barry, who plays professionally as a Grandmaster, he is too good to play against the Rac-eligible GMs, but with his 954 rating, can chew up or try to chew up the younger guys in the Am 1 division.

Registration is now around 30 players. We'll be ordering the shirts early next week, so getting in before then will ensure you get the shirt size you want. You can download an entry form here.

In other news, we're please to announce that Grip-EQ is now a sponsor. We'll be giving away a Grip Bag via a raffle. Details to follow.

IMHP... (that's a contradiction in itself)
 If you win it once.  You shouldn't play it again. ...
Unless you're a rec player. ... or  mentally challenged. 
Let the "delete Mike's post" count down begin... :'(
i don't understand your thinking,you say don't support this tournament just because you won your division before,so should that go for all tournaments that you play in,win and never play it again

 I have never played; so I have never Won this event. Does this mean I can drop from Open and play it this year and every year after until I win it....Just so I can support this event.

I'll start with the Rec Division this year ;)

Cliff Drive / Re: Hey Jack - Cliff Drive needs to try this.
« on: September 27, 2013, 10:47:40 am »
And let's not forget our sister organizations: the PDGA (Piedmont Dairy Goat Association) and the PDGA (Pennsylvania Dairy Goat Association)

Tournaments / 17th Rosedale Amateur Championships - October 6
« on: September 13, 2013, 04:51:03 pm »
It's the time of the year for the 17th Annual Rosedale Amateur Championships, which will be played on the top course at Rosedale Park on October 6. This event has evolved through the years to become a fairly laid-back event with an emphasis on welcoming newer players to the world of competitive disc golf though extra attention to explaining the rules and procedures of disc golf. In addition, we will have several pros in attendance to share their knowledge as well. You can download an entry form here.

To further enhance each player's experience, we're still looking for additional sponsors. Sponsorship can be money, gift certificates, discs, shirts, beer, etc. We hope to have a nice selection of prizes to give away via throw-offs and/or CTPs. If interested, please download a sponsorship form here.

And finally, here's a fun look at the results from all the RACs from 2000-2012. Regrettably, we haven't yet found the data from the first four events, but the other 12 are in here. This was the first event for many of the players listed, including some who have kept playing events, often with much success. The file is an Excel spread sheet.

If you have any questions about playing or sponsorship or anything else, please call 816.471.3472 or write to

General Banter / Re: Unfair to not share......
« on: August 28, 2013, 05:16:43 pm »
he ran out of time, he got the right answer and was getting ready to cross it out, when time was that close....or so the story goes.....

Had he remembered in time, he may have chosen not to accept a job in the high-powered and extremely remunerative disc golf industry less than a year later. John definitely impacted KC disc golf for the 10 or so years he was here, so KC disc golf history would likely have been different had he remembered what he knew...sooner.

Tournaments / Re: 2013 Discraft Ace Race
« on: August 12, 2013, 12:51:35 pm »
Much to my chagrin because it put "who are you KIDding Mills" ahead of me, I'll testify that he did get an ace during the second round.


i know i hit one and i know i paid
for the ace fund

General Banter / Re: Swope 'Folf' Course
« on: July 02, 2013, 11:58:11 am »
Folf might have been used first in print in Stancil Johnson's 1975 book: Frisbee: A Practitioner’s Manual and Definitive Treatise. Folf is still used, possibly more than disc golf, in Montana.  Remembering long-ago talks with Tom Ingle,  I don't think that Ed Headrick actually requested royalties, but Ingle wanted to avoid that possibility. He had recently gotten burned after he printed a large number of bumper stickers that said Frisbee. He got a cease-and-desist letter from the Wham-O legal department telling him that Frisbee was trademarked and he couldn't sell them any longer. When he told Headrick about his idea to open a pay-to-play course, Tom sensed that Ed might eventually try to get royalties. After having recently dealt with Wham-O, he chose Folf to ensure that Headrick wouldn't try to ding him

Lynne and I first played Swope in June of 1983, where we met CD Steiner for the first time. I believe the green fee at that time was $4 a round or $5 a day. Jim is correct about the $100 annual memberships.

I started there summer of 1981.
Tom Ingle sitting at the picnic table for 2 years until he built the wood shed Pro Shop
I think he charged a dollar per round.  For $100 you could play unlimited for a year.
He called it Folf because Steady Ed Headrick (who started DGA) wanted royalties for using
the "Disc Golf" name.
Thus the one and only Folf course in the world.
The course was an early conception on the now Swope Park Disc Golf Course.
Hole 1 teeepad was what is now hole 9 teepad. The pin was down on the flat area before
OB gully.
Current Hole 13 was added after the big zoo renovation. The area was a staging area for construction. Dan Cashen terraformed with the bunker hills.

Historian Slim

General Banter / Re: Swope 'Folf' Course
« on: July 01, 2013, 04:07:22 pm »
Here's a link to the DGWN stories/ads/box scores for the Folf Championships:

General Banter / Re: Swope 'Folf' Course
« on: July 01, 2013, 10:34:47 am »
who among you knows the kc icon who won the inaugrual "u.s. open" folf tournament?

Hosfeld in 88, edging out John Heaton, Sam Ferrans, and Otto Spiers.  Dan Cashen in 89. The 90 event was cancelled, thus making Dan the defending National Folf Champion in perpetuity or until he's no able to make the claim. We're scanning the ads, stories, and box scores that appear in Disc Golf World News, and will provide a link to a PDF of them later today.

General Banter / Re: The Fallen: Nick Moeder memorial
« on: June 19, 2013, 11:24:48 am »
While I understand our community's desire to show it's support of the Moeder family, i think any memorial should be cleared with the family first. There is a chance that they may not want to be reminded that Nick's brief association with disc golf ultimately led to his demise. If they were to sign off, I think a living memorial, like a tree with a small plaque, would be much much appropriate for a public park. Also, if this idea were to move forward, I think that waiting for at least several weeks before contacting them would be respectful.

I won't be able to make it since I am taking off tomorrow morning to watch the boy while my wife goes to the dentist but would have loved to have come out to show my sympathy and support to Nicks family and friends. I will see if Chris might be able to sneak out of work for this to represent the Portwood contingent. I agree that a more permanent memorial should be placed in the park for the Moeder family. Perhaps the club can have a fund raising event to help with the memorial expenses? Just a thought.

« on: June 17, 2013, 02:21:34 pm »
This was probably in 1996 or 1997 when Chris Markey (KCFDC #249) organized an urban disc golf tournament. Each of the entrants designed a hole in public areas. A basket was  transported from hole to hole, and there was money exchanged at the end. I did not play but I remember that Crazy John, LaRon Harris, and Jeff Woods did. The only hole I can remember enough to describe was in the median on Ward Parkway as it curves down the hill before it flattens as it approaches the Plaza. An interesting sidebar about Chris Markey was that he was robbed at gunpoint at Rosedale, which, to my knowledge, remains the only armed robbery on a KC disc golf course.

There is still room for some more players in the tomorrow's KCWO C-Tier. You'll need to sign up at Rosedale no later than 8:30 am. The cost is $62 ($10 less if you're a current PDGA member)  Players play Rosie and Water Works, and receive a package that includes two discs, a commemorative shirt, two minis, and the Saturday night party/dinner.

Here's some TV coverage the event got today:

General Banter / Re: Beach sports network
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:11:32 pm »
Did anyone catch this? What did you think?

It's scheduled again at 4:30 pm on Thursday, 1:00 pm & 1:30 pm on Saturday, and Noon on Sunday.

Anyone else see the release by the pdga that this network will have coverage of the Memoral and it will air on metro sport Mon the 20 at 11p?

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