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General Banter / Re: You gotta see this
« on: July 11, 2008, 11:28:38 AM »
Or simply have officals in your town, a la Wiggins Jr.

That is correct.  It might be fun to do a kids' frisbee skills day, maybe in conjunction with doing some adult overall competitions like distance and mta. DDC anyone?

RR

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Rosedale / Re: HOPE EVERYONE GOT HOME OK FROM ROSIE
« on: July 09, 2008, 12:06:05 PM »
It's your dough. We'll either refund it or keep it until you return to Rosey....RR


Had I had access to the internet out there, I would have seen that giant storm cell moving towards us around 6:45. Probably should have called play for a wait and see before the hard rain began at 7:10. I don't think anyone suffered any serious injuries, although I took one on the wrist which bled and is bruised today. Kelly Warren, who along with several others, sat out the brunt of the storm underneath a very, very loud shelter, reported that some of that hail ended up closer to racket ball sized. I'd heard of golf ball to baseball sized hail in the past, but this was the first time seeing it up close and personal.

Anyway, everyone who signed up has credit towards the next Rosedale league (or at Water Works tonight only where I'm subbing for Ted) or we can get your money back to you.

RR

How long will this "Rain Check" be good for?  I can not make it tonight is the only reason I'm asking.

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Rosedale / Re: HOPE EVERYONE GOT HOME OK FROM ROSIE
« on: July 09, 2008, 12:04:48 PM »
Wussies.....Becket, Tavish and Otto finished the round, now there is some dedication....or is it idiocy?
 :o

It would have been idocy, but  I know that Otto and Tavish didn't finish. Otto was in my group.  I know the group with Stiles and Timko and Atwater-Taylor played on, although I'm not sure if they "finished." Fortunately, one of those larger hail stones didn't finish and of them.

RR

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You can now sign up online at http://tinyurl.com/H2Open

Don't miss out! Register soon.

RR

5th H2Open

For those who truly love the Water Works Disc Golf Course


Saturday, July 19, 2008 • Water Works Park • Kansas City, Missouri

Ace Pool •CTP for each division •Barbecue for lunch •Soft drinks pro v i d e d • Tee Shirt with Entry

FIELD LIMIT IS 72 PLAYERS. PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.

SCHEDULE
8:30 a.m.—check in opens
9:45 a.m.—player’s meeting. Tee off to follow.
Lunch around noon.
2nd round tee off—to be announced.
Awards around 4:00 p.m.
Doubles to follow?



Entry Fees: $35.00


Divisions
Pro: Open,  Women, Masters, Grandmasters and Masters. Big Boy Sidebet—$15.
Amateur Divisions: Advanced men, women, masters. Intermediate men and women, Recreational Men and Women.


Registration Information

Name
Address
City/State/Zip
Phone #                                         
E-mail
Birthdate
Your division:
Base Entry: $35
Big Boy Bet-dd $15
Ace Pool-add $2.
Total of entry: $
Checks/money orders payable to Disc Golf World.
Disc Golf World • 509 E 18th St • Kansas City, MO 64108
For more information or to pay with to pay with a credit card ($2 processing fee will be added), contact
Disc Golf World—816.471.3472 or rick@discgolfworld.com[/color]


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Found and Lost / Bring Lost Discs to Disc Golf World
« on: July 08, 2008, 12:53:05 PM »
We've been doing this for a while, but decided to announce it out here. Please feel free to bring found discs with names and or contact information on them to Disc Golf World at 509 E 18th ST in KC (or give them to John Chapman, Ted Keith, or Rick Rothstein). You can also drop in the 509 mail slot when the store is closed.

We will contact the owner of the disc, who can pick it up here at their leisure. I think it's great that so many people are keeping the community spirit alive by trying to get lost discs back to their owners. However, the problem is often the logistics of meeting up. Having DGW has a central repository should help resolve that problem to some extent. Unclaimed lost discs will become property of the KCFDC to advance its outreach programs.

Rick


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5th H2Open

For those who truly love the Water Works Disc Golf Course


Saturday, July 19, 2008 • Water Works Park • Kansas City, Missouri

Ace Pool •CTP for each division •Barbecue for lunch •Soft drinks pro v i d e d • Tee Shirt with Entry

FIELD LIMIT IS 72 PLAYERS. PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.

SCHEDULE
8:30 a.m.—check in opens
9:45 a.m.—player’s meeting. Tee off to follow.
Lunch around noon.
2nd round tee off—to be announced.
Awards around 4:00 p.m.
Doubles to follow?



Entry Fees: $35.00


Divisions
Pro: Open,  Women, Masters, Grandmasters and Masters. Big Boy Sidebet—$15.
Amateur Divisions: Advanced men, women, masters. Intermediate men and women, Recreational Men and Women.


Registration Information

Name
Address
City/State/Zip
Phone #                                         
E-mail
Birthdate
Your division:
Base Entry: $35
Big Boy Bet-dd $15
Ace Pool-add $2.
Total of entry: $
Checks/money orders payable to Disc Golf World.
Disc Golf World • 509 E 18th St • Kansas City, MO 64108
For more information or to pay with to pay with a credit card ($2 processing fee will be added), contact
Disc Golf World—816.471.3472 or rick@discgolfworld.com[/color]

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Water Works / 7/3/08 Water Works League
« on: July 05, 2008, 10:39:20 AM »
It was an absolutely gorgeous evening at Water Works with light breezes, temperature around 80°, NO rain, and a recently mowed course. The only bad news was the large tree that guarded the left placement at #9 fell during Wednesday night's storm. The good news was that if fell on the right placement but the basket was on the left.

With #2, #6, #8, #12, #14, and #15 in their longest positions, it was a moderately tough layout. Playing masters, Mike Thomas shot a 47, 5 better than Arturo Villarreal and Leo Deprato, who won the open with 52s. All told, we had 26 players.

Open (9)
Leo Deprato              52
Arturo Villarreal         52
Fred Netherton           53
Marshal Wolfe            55
Dave Hemmeline        57
Justin Atwater-Taylor   59
Eric Kolkmeier            61
Caleb Walker              62
Mike Penney               68

Masters (11)
Mike Thomas              47
Jamie Barry                53
Terry Adams               55
Dan Coffman               58
Rick Rothstein             59
Tom Butler                 59
Mo Louis                    60
Kevin Montgomery       60
Doug Kantro                61
John Chapman             62
Jeff Hamilton              63

Intermediate Men (4)
Adam Morrison            61
Joe Castagno               63
Tony Todd                   64
Norman Schmalz          72

Intermediate Women (2)
Becky Stebbins           82
Linda Todd                 85

Ace pool = $298

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General Banter / Disc Golf Article in the July 2008 Urban Times
« on: July 03, 2008, 01:15:05 PM »
It was a few weeks ago that Rachel Murphy showed up at Rosedale on Wednesday night to research an article she was writing for Urban Times, a free glossy monthly that can be found from the River Market to the Plaza, and perhaps, in suburban locations as well. She did an excellent job. She got most of her information when she walked the whole round with Tavish, Pete C, Mike Thomas, and me. There are three photos taken by Aaron Lindberg without captions including Justin Starks, Chris Timko, and me. I'll quote the lead article and the pull quotes. Pick up an issue when you can. I think you'll be pleased.

Lead sentence: If Gatorade were the official sponsor of high-pressure sports such as soccer, football, and basketball, then Boulevard would be the sponsor of disc golf. At first glance, this motley assembly of people would not be sized up as fierce competitors. Even after a 2-hour walk around the disc golf course at Rosedale Park, fierce is not the adjective that I would choose, but they are competitors. Better descriptions would be environmentally and socially conscious, community involved, and skill competitors.

Pull quote 1: "Disc golf  is the only time that some people get outside. It's a lot more stimulation than the video games that kids spend so much time on these days," says Pete Cashen, an industrial pipe worker and disc golf enthusiast. "Plus it's good exercise."

Pull quote 2: While the name disc golf conjures up unlikely images of jauntily dressed businessmen throwing Frisbees, the truth is not too far off.

Again, this was a very flattering and  factually correct article. The only error was attributing Justin Starks 2nd place advanced finish in the Wide Open as "second place over all." Kudos to Rachel.

RR

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Rosedale / Re: HOPE EVERYONE GOT HOME OK FROM ROSIE
« on: July 03, 2008, 09:26:37 AM »
Had I had access to the internet out there, I would have seen that giant storm cell moving towards us around 6:45. Probably should have called play for a wait and see before the hard rain began at 7:10. I don't think anyone suffered any serious injuries, although I took one on the wrist which bled and is bruised today. Kelly Warren, who along with several others, sat out the brunt of the storm underneath a very, very loud shelter, reported that some of that hail ended up closer to racket ball sized. I'd heard of golf ball to baseball sized hail in the past, but this was the first time seeing it up close and personal.

Anyway, everyone who signed up has credit towards the next Rosedale league (or at Water Works tonight only where I'm subbing for Ted) or we can get your money back to you.

RR

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General Banter / Re: Charlie (the blind man) Bauersfeld
« on: July 01, 2008, 12:57:52 PM »
Kevin has kindly posted the article that Ace Mason wrote for Disc Golf World after Charlie's stellar performance at the 2004 Pro-Am Worlds, where he cashed. 

 http://www.kcfdc.org/docs/charleydgwarticle2004.pdf

I'll miss Charlie a lot, not only for his courage, competitive fire, and his commitment to keeping fit, but his wonderful sense of humor. I'll never forget the first time I talked to him when he called me about the 2001 Rosedale Amateur Championships. He asked me if I had a division for blind guys over 55. Although I thought I was being put on, I played it straight, saying that if he could find two more blind 55-year olds, I'd be glad to open the division. We talked a while, with him telling me how his game was progressing, that he was starting to get some 3s on holes. I still thought he was putting me on, but it turned out to be our first of many conversations about his game. And yes, that was his first tournament in October where he finished close to, but not at the bottom of the novice division. (He couldn't get those other 2 blind old guys to make the blind amateur grandmaster division!)

Charlie was probably one of the most competitive people I've ever known. I was directing the Wide Open which I believe was Charlie's first PDGA event. He played Pro Grandmasters along with Peter Shive and couple of others. This was his nephew Billy's debut as his  caddy (see the article). I remember talking to the group after the first round, commenting that they were playing quite a bit slower, and they needed to speed it up. I suggested that Billy should try to hustle more when giving Charlie distance and obstacle reports. (He would scramble up the fairway and then come back to advise.) Charlie was not pleased at all with my admonition, and the rest of the old guys were none too pleased with me either. However, Billy did hustle and they were in synch with the rest of the groups the rest of the way...and it was established that a nearly blind guy could play in major PDGA events.

I hadn't been keeping in touch with Charlie as much during the last year or longer, but we always had animated conversations about disc golf. He was always up to date on the national politics of the game, and had very strong opinions. Of course, as competitive and opinionated as he sometimes could be, he could take a put-down joke (and give as good as he got).

Charlie, who would have turned 63 in August, was only 3 years older than I. I think it was my own unresolved fear of dying that delayed my calling him after Annie let me know about his deteriorating condition less than 6 weeks ago. I feel real regret that I did take the opportunity to thank him for his inspiration and friendship, and to say good bye before now. Good bye dear friend.

I extend my condolences to his family and friends. I really believe his life in disc golf, albeit a brief one, made the game and all of us who knew him better.

Rick

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Water Works / Re: outta towner gonna get 1st play on waterworks 6-19
« on: June 20, 2008, 09:57:43 AM »
I would like to congradulate you on getting a full round in at BV without getting shot or mugged.

Were you being ironic Leo? If so, that's what the blasted smileys are for. Are you aware of any golfers being shot or mugged at Blue Valley?  (Quiz: At what disc golf park in KC was the only known armed robbery?) While admittedly BV is located in a rougher neighborhood where our presence is improving the area, implying that disc golfers are in peril at this park without backing it up is not only irresponsible, but potentially hurtful to the game. I'm not naive, and realize that because of its location, BV is in a higher-crime area, and would advise all park users to be vigilant when playing and using the park. I would advise this in any public area, however. I'm an urban dweller who knows that the difference between being properly cautious and aware as opposed to being just paranoid.

Rick

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Tournaments / Re: Solstice Doubles -08
« on: June 16, 2008, 10:37:43 AM »
Sure why not.......it has nothing to do with the PDGA..

how is it decided who plays where? if both advanced masters and pro masters are playing for cash, what are the criteria to determine who is eligible for each division? as you say, it's not PDGA, so those guidelines don't apply.


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Tournaments / Re: Solstice Doubles -08
« on: June 16, 2008, 09:25:43 AM »
Your flyer reads" Cash and Merchandise Prizes for all Divisions."

Does that mean ams get paid in cash again this year?


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Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open
« on: June 11, 2008, 11:54:51 AM »
We're a young sport where only a few people, so far, manage to be "pros" in that they can cobble together a living of sorts. I would guess, for the most part, the players that this thread has been talking about...those in the 940 to 970 (and even those on up to 1000) ratings range are avid disc golfers who have jobs, families, and other responsibilities. Just because some one takes money for playing disc golf does not, in my opinion, mean he/she has become a professional. For the most part, we are still playing for each other entry fees, which means we are essentially gambling. The Wide Open added $4K to the pro purse, which means the rest of the purse was entry fees. Mike made one point that I'm in total agreement with: the pro entry fees have gotten WAY too high. I'm not certain what the threshold is for guys like Mike (and eventually Justin) to play open is, but I think an open entry fee in the $90 to 100 range (in a NT, lower for lesser events) might attract more borderline-pro-rated players to try the "big boy" division. (Also, including a disc or a shirt as a player package wouldn't hurt.) Like everyone else in town, I'm applaud Justin's great finish in his first multi-day event. I'm hopeful that he will keep his excellent attitude and continue to get better and better. The other side of the same PDGA rule is that ams can play in pro divisions, and get comped in merchandise if they "cash," and thus can keep their am status and Ams Worlds eligibility alive. Not sure what his plans are, but right now Justin is a definite contender for the Am World Advanced Men's title in 2009.


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Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open - GO KC!
« on: June 07, 2008, 10:56:53 PM »
The KC Wide Open party tonight at Blue Valley was loads of fun. Kelly Warren cooked burger and brats and veggies for all the players who showed, guests, and staff. Bob Hayett's band was perfect with lots of blues and rhythm and blues. And, of course, the two kegs of Boulevard got emptied.

I just perused the results, and gotta say, GO KC. We've got Justin Starks leading the advanced by 2. His 53 at Rosedale today was rated 995. Ken Hostetler is only 3 out of the lead in advanced masters. KC occupies the top 2 spots in the intermediate men's division, with Steve Harris leading Aaron Johnson by five. With a lead of 20 throws, Lindsey Keith needs to avoid falling into a sink hole to claim her intermediate women's title.

On the pro side, Arturo Villarreal and David Hemmeline are tied for 6th and 11th, respectively in the open. While likely a bit too far down to the leader, Steve Rico, they are both poised to win coveted USGDC invitations. In the "old" divisions, Bryan Guthrie in masters and Mark Stiles in grandmasters are both only one throw out of the lead.

Oh yeah, this is probably the windiest Wide Open in our storied 26 year history. I heard a few of the stories from today...it was not easy for anyone.

Once again, go KCFDC players!

It should be more fun tomorrow at Water Works where all the pros are playing. The lead women's group tees at 12:30 and the top 4 open players go at 1:30. Check the tee times for the pros here: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7287#Open. If attending,  please park in the Cerner parking lot directly across from the Park entrance. Spectators may enter a raffle for a Innova Traveler target. There will also be tournament discs and tee shirts for sale.

Just a reminder for those wanting to play casual rounds tomorrow: the ams should be finishing up at Swope and Blue Valley around noonish. Everyone associated with the KC Wide Open appreciates the majority of players in town who have cooperated with the course closures during the event.

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