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Prairie Center / Re: WORK DAY AT PC!!!!
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:04:24 am »
A productive day of course enhancement occured on Saturday, July 26 at Prairie Center Park in Olathe.

Approximately 4 cubic yards of shredded wood chips were placed around tees 1, 4, and 8, as well as the 2 basket on the island. These locations were some of the more heavily eroded on the course.

The fabulous DR mower made yet another appearence and with Andy and Adam guiding it around made many of the back holes far easier to navigate. If anybody hasn't seen one of these, it's basically a walk behind, self propelled brush hog. This is the most signifigant task that got done. Anybody that plays Olathe owes Andy and Adam a big thanks for the DR.   

Low hanging dead limbs were removed on hole 14 left.

Dead fall and some dead branches were removed on holes 12 and 13.

Hole 15 tee box had been partially obstructed by branches on a willow growing beside the pond. This was taken care of with some selective pruning and the denting of Andy's truck.

Hole 8 tee had also been partially obstructed by low hanging branches. Some selelective pruning occured here.

Some of the barbed wire fence line was repaired (Andy again).

Bryan G. hit multiple areas with his weed eater.

I probably missed some of the tasks, but most were included above.

A crew of 7 humans and one small canine worked most of the morning. Andy was there early, but I would say most everyone worked between 4 and 5 hours. After the work we enjoyed a picnic with Oklahoma Joes and drink, and most went to the Redneck Yacht Club for a relaxing afternoon on the Lake of Gardner.


Andy Lewis (get r done)
Adam (I had his last name but...?)it's his DR we get to use.
Tom Butler
Cindy Butler (runner, provider of refresments, and shoveling dudette)
Bryan Guthrie
Dean Uhlman
Wes Lubberts (when your young you can shovel huge amounts of stuff)


Mr. (it's my park) Gus

Thanks to all that came out. Baskets are for the most part in round 1 settings, so come out Monday and give it a whirl.

« on: July 21, 2008, 10:42:18 am »
Shots that landed in the sun were brutal.

The delight series is fun. The 30 minute lunch/break is just right. Bring a picnic lunch, take a break, and tee it up again. Get in two rounds, lunch, and a CTP in less than 5 hours. Add some monkeys whooping, some jackasses baying, some wallabys hopping, and the afternoon delights are the bomb. Good job Dan!

Prairie Center / Re: WORK DAY AT PC!!!!
« on: July 21, 2008, 09:05:43 am »
I'll be there.

Prairie Center / Re: league choices on Monday
« on: July 14, 2008, 02:17:23 pm »
If I lived closer I'd prolly split my time between the two leagues.

Prairie Center / Re: league choices on Monday
« on: July 14, 2008, 01:29:27 pm »
Hole #1 tee box at Olathe is conveniently located near the parking lot, restrooms, and two shelter houses. The alternate tee box (which is concrete, like the other 17 tee boxes and 4 alternate tee boxes) is just west of the playground. Come on out for league and enjoy the frequently mowed grass, big yellow baskets, and concrete tees. Of course, several of the top players in KC frequent this league, so be prepared and bring your "A" game.

Tournaments / Re: Mid-America Open July 12-13, 2008
« on: July 14, 2008, 10:07:54 am »
In the field of 14, I won advanced masters, barely.

Prairie Center / Re: League results 6/30
« on: July 01, 2008, 10:14:21 am »
AHA-we had 17 as well at Cliff on Monday!

That's great! We all enjoy the concrete tee boxes,very short grass, and frequently moved baskets at Olathe, but cliff is fun too. It's great we have so many places to fling.

Found and Lost / Lost tee rex @ rosedale #1
« on: June 26, 2008, 03:19:52 pm »
Tuesday I lost a blue star tee rex on #1 rosedale around lunch. Later that day I got a call on my home message machine from a guy named Joe who said he'd found it. He didn't leave a call back number and I don't have caller id at home, so if anybody knows Joe, have him call me again.

Tough topic.
If  pro 2 is adopted, and masters is not a division, who decides where the split occurs? The mini director, the board, or ? Does it vary from mini to mini?
Would the split be based off of PDGA ratings, or local ratings? A ratings based split forces the mini director to somehow verify a players rating. It also means sombody has to keep the ratings. John has been doing this, but do we want to have somebody doing this continuously and indefinetely?
The players at the cutoff level (for instance if the split was 950 and they have a 951 rating) will not be real happy, but I suppose you can't please all the people all of the time.
Whatever we can do to make for a better KC disc golf experience, I'm in favor of. It's already great.

A recent study found the average American golfer walks about 900 miles a
year. Another study found American golfers drink, on
average, 22 gallons of beer a year.
That means, on average, American golfers get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind Of Makes You Proud.

Prairie Center / league choices on Monday
« on: June 23, 2008, 11:50:14 am »
Now that the cliff drive league is starting up on Mondays, it's great we have a choice in where we want to play every Monday.

If you want to come play a course with concrete tees, and manicured/mowed grass, come on out to Olathe.

Remember when the time change occurs in the fall, we will start up GLOW as well.

Tournaments / Re: Sun Burn Open July 6th
« on: June 23, 2008, 10:27:50 am »
Will there be a pre-reg thing going? If so, can the registration list get populated on the PDGA site?

It's 13 days away..... sun burn open.... "it puts the lotion on it's skin."

General Banter / Re: Cliff Drive-Bringing back Monday Night League!
« on: June 19, 2008, 10:33:17 am »
If the city decides to pull the b-ball court out, I would suggest not putting
any disc golf activity in the area. Even though we (the disc golfers) did not suggest the b-ball court be removed, the disc golf activity will be viewed by the b-ball court patrons as the reason they don't have a nice b-ball court anymore.

General Banter / Tulsa golfer injured
« on: June 11, 2008, 12:51:59 pm »
I know some people know a golfer, Richard Mitchell from Tulsa here in KC. He is a nice guy. I just read on the PDGA discussion page that Richard was in a motorcycle accident last week in Tulsa on his way home from playing. It sounds like he was hurt pretty bad. Please take a minute and pray for him and his recovery.

Shawnee Mission / Re: How can we improve course maintenance?
« on: June 11, 2008, 10:18:56 am »
Yes, we certainly don't want to bash them.

It is rather frustrating to me though that the wealthiest county in the state can't mow a few fairways for the citizens, and little ole Pleasant Hill can keep their park manicured so well. I have a small house in JOCO and pay over $200 a month in county property taxes.
The Beatles Revolution keeps coming to mind......

Club Archives / Re: 2008 KC Wide Open
« on: June 09, 2008, 03:04:17 pm »
It's not a loop hole, it's the PDGA getting soft on the definition of Pro vs Am.  Note the bottom right corner.

Yeah, I know he was playing Am legally under the new rules, it isn't exactly what can be called a loop hole but it smells like one in this case. I'll be you a dollar this guy plays Open next week and for the rest of the season. It just ain't right I tell ya. But besides the fact that it makes the PDGA look like they don't know what they're doing it also makes Michael Robinson the current poster child for sandbaggers everywhere. I guess you can't blame him for doing it, the rules allowed it and he just took advantage of it. I'm sure he still sleeps well at night.

I'm willing to listen to opposing viewpoints defending this guy's right to do this and why it isn't that big of a deal.....  anyone want to offer one up? Beuller? Anyone?

This is one of the reasons I am considering stepping down to intermediate's almost like making the Adv division a Pro2 division and doesn't encourage average players (i.e. myself) to "move up".

A sandbagger is a nasty species of golf vermin who lies about his true playing abilities - making himself seem worse than he is - in order to gain advantage in tournaments or bets.
We all know what a sand bag is, but how did bags of sand enter the golf lexicon?

First, the word doesn't derive from the type of sand bags we're all familiar with. It's not the defensive sand bags - those used for flood control, lining foxholes, and so on - but the offensive sand bags that give us the word "sandbagger."

Gangs and street toughs of the 19th century used sand bags as a weapon of choice. Take a sock or small bag, fill it with sand, wrap it tightly, and wail away on someone (well, don't actually wail away on someone, but imagine that you are) and you'll see how effective a weapon a small sand bag can be.

Gang members used such weapons to intimidate their foes or average citizens. To threaten and bully the populace.

This definition of sandbagger - a person who uses a sand bag as a weapon - can still be found in many dictionaries; it's the first definition for the word in most older dictionaries.

But the word didn't go directly from its gangland origins into golf; there was an intermediary step in its adoption by the sports world, and golf, to mean someone who misrepresents his ability to gain an advantage.

According to the website, that intermediary step was poker.

Say you're in a poker match and you're dealt a fantastic hand. If you place a huge bet right off the bat, you might scare most of your poker mates into folding. Instead, you might choose to bet small amounts, hoping to keep your opponents in the match, increasing the pot, up until the moment you show your cards.

As puts it, the poker meaning "... described a player who held off raising the stakes in order to lull the other players into a false sense of security. The poker sandbagger would pounce late in the game, clobbering the other players with his good hand."

The poker player, in other words, misled his opponents about how good his hand was ... until it was time to whip out the "sand bag" and beat those same opponents with it.

And that's how "sandbagger" came to have its golf meaning.

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