first off, freakn hilarious Leo. i have not heard of kcfo yet, thats great. second, im notblaming anyone, i take full responsibility for DNF'ing, i dont really give a crap. i was just giving jack a reason why i did it, because i did not feel like waiting around 10 mins between throws, but its my own fault.. not a big deal really. third, Sneed, i did not mean they where playin like handicapped midgets, i just said they palyed as slow as i would imagine short, bum legged people would. dont get your panites in a bunch dude. its just frisbee golf bro, but its nice to see people going out on a limb like you are, and saying how much better a 1000 rated pro is over me... can you tell me somethign else wiseguy, what color is the sky?