I must concur wholeheartedly...played my first ever round out there with fellow Grandmasters K~Mont, Tony Todd & Bomb Tutler last week. Nicely manicured & scenic course with doable obstacles. My kind of course in that placement golf is key on many of the holes. I'll give it a 10. Yep, a 10. Birdland/Lakeside Hills is right up there w/ WW & Cliff Drive.