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Shawnee Mission / Re: Tee Pads coming
« on: June 23, 2009, 03:06:32 PM »
1-9 going in this week.
10-18  scheduled to go in next.

Cliff Drive / Re: Work Day Weekend June 12, 13, 14
« on: June 12, 2009, 09:49:59 AM »
Jack will be between holes 2 - 3 through most of the day. If you can help he can use it. New tools!

Tournaments / Re: 27th Kansas City Wide Open - MAY 30 & 31, 2009
« on: May 29, 2009, 09:58:06 PM »
Shawnee Mission has been mowed and pruned and all is looking well.

Bring your deet based repellent unless you plan to stay in the fairway all day.


Shawnee Mission / Re: League Results - 5/26
« on: May 27, 2009, 12:09:37 AM »
Damn I didn't see the cool pencil. Looking forward to the viking photo, Butler at the WO should be a scene.

Thanks for making it an event Loomis! Hope it drys out a bit.

I would highly recommend applying a Deet based insect repellent every time you play this course, from May- September especially. I usually don't get any ticks from playing the course if I do this, but without it I can pull off several ticks per round as its pretty unavoidable when the disc lands in the taller grass.

Shawnee Mission / Re: SMP League Night
« on: March 25, 2009, 03:58:21 PM »
As stated there are some payment issues and formats to work out since we cant take money in the park.  We are getting tee pads and new placements set over the next month or so and I will be very focused on the installation process. To me it makes since to get the pads and locations in before starting leagues since we are in the midst of the process.

If there is any one in the community who would like to step up and volunteer to run league at SMP this summer, that would show some significant interest in getting the ball rolling.

We really need new blood to help keep the sport growing with our expansion of club leagues and courses. As we continue to install new courses and expand the event schedule we can not keep leaning on the same people year in and year out to commit to organization. It wears people down and burns them out even if they start with the best intentions. KCFDC needs a reliable individual who is committed to showing up each Tuesday to record and maintain stats. I have yet to coordinate with anyone who agrees to this commitment, but I haven't asked many people either. I'm sure the support is out there.

So is there anyone interested in stepping up? PM me or reply here.

Shawnee Mission / Re: #18 Pin is loose
« on: March 18, 2009, 11:41:19 AM »
Thanks for the notification. I'll head out tonight to check it out.

Shawnee Mission / Tee Pads coming
« on: February 05, 2009, 10:12:02 AM »
KCFDC just met with the JoCo Parks & Rec at SMP this morning. Several new items are in the planning stages for the park. Tee Pads are being planned for installation in the Spring. The Measurements will be 5' x 16' concrete. Tee signs will be installed on each hole as well.  We are very pleased the parks dept has made such generous contributions to our sport. They will be providing the bulk of the labor and materials for the project. We also expect an information Kiosk to be installed at hole 1 around this time.

Several other items such as new pin placements and waste baskets are also in the works, we will see as few as 4 new B pin placements this year with a potential for 18 new placements, 1 for each hole.

A few tweaks to the course layout will be made in final preparation for tee pad install. Most affected will be holes 5 and 6, which will be extended and altered through the wooded area. 8, 9, 11, and 14 will also see some changes too tee pad location to better accomodate multiple pin placements. In effect, the current pins will be the defacto short placements as we move Tee in closer on a few holes, and longer B settings are placed.

I will keep the course map updated on our site as changes are made, however I'd expect the parks to alter their maps less frequently until the final changes are set in concrete so to speak.

General Banter / Re: Shawnee Mission Course
« on: November 16, 2008, 10:31:58 PM »
I'd be happy to go play a round and discuss what we've been planning on developing and tweaking. It will be good to have additional help to get the job done.

General Banter / Re: Shawnee Mission Course
« on: November 14, 2008, 12:25:42 PM »
Folks please show some patience.  We are lucky to have any course in at the moment, as funding was not scheduled to be released to install the baskets when we got them in. The course is a work in progress and much more work is happening over this winter to prep for worlds. If you think the course is too easy or whatever just realize this.  This course has been planned over the long term to accommodate a large range of skills with multiple placements and tees to meet the needs of a variety of players.  We are in the midst of getting this developed. For instance, does anyone remember how much Cliff Drive changed from its first year to what it is now years later? Its not the same course, its improved with patience and effort and a good plan. SMP Course has been installed for only 1 year 4 days.

I for one am grateful that they have given us the land and permission play. We have been working to establish a healthy long term relationship with the parks dept. I'd like to see tees, benches, trees planted, the west field mowed more consistently, and we are working towards that with the parks dept.  We have to abide by a lot of regulations set forth by the park dept. If you think this process is a simple one have a look at other courses that have been promised ie, Lenexa - Lees Summit.

SMP is located in an area that attracts a lot of newer players who will play their first rounds of disc golf there. It was consciously decided by the Executive Committee to make the course play beginner friendly in the first phase. In other words the course is set to play its easiest settings before we install alternate longer, tougher placements. Many decisions being made may not make sense at that moment or meet your specific need, but there is a long term plan to make this course a great course.

Holes 4,5,6 are going to structurally change to utilize wooded areas this winter along with additional placements on many other holes. We will post workdays in the SMP thread as we are in the process of having our equipment fixed and accounted for. At htis point we will be discussing tweaks and changes to the course. Then come out and put your words into action. I am open for any good ideas. If you have any specific issues please send me a note or give me a call. 816.678.4468


General Banter / Workday Equipment - Call to Arms
« on: November 13, 2008, 10:45:14 AM »
Several courses are planning workdays, and we have a scattered array of equipment around town, some accounted for, some not.

If you have any saws, cutters, ect.. or know of anyone who does have club equipment please speak up and let us know here.

All equipment needs to be returned to club storage at Disc Golf World

as soon as possible so we can assess if any more repairs that need to be made and we can continue using the equipment on several courses that are in serious need of care before The Worlds.  This is typically the best time of year to get work done since the brush and bugs are down and the weather is cool.

Here is what we know of so far:

Jack has sent the Polesaw to the shop to repair the extension tube. He also has a stihl brush trimmer and the mongo push weed whacker.

Tom Butler has the smaller Brush Trimmer and is going to get the fuel line repaired next week.

I'm not sure where the Chainsaw is but heard it was last seen at Rosedale workday...?

I'd like to schedule the first of several workdays at SMP but want to make sure we have the tools needed to get the job done, as I assume other CCs are considering as well.

Thanks for helping make our courses beautiful!

General Banter / Re: A New Course on the Distant Horizon...Maybe!
« on: November 04, 2008, 02:37:45 PM »
As a concerned citizen I submitted a disc golf course proposal to the landplan architects back in early June during the public input for Rieke Lake. Very cool. I saw this was approved a few weeks ago and was the first  I had heard anything from initial contact. It appears they are comfortable at this point with doing the preliminaries without our involvement. Let's hope that works out better than some other recent experiences of this sort.

I've got plenty on my plate with SMP and am not looking to really expand duties, but I'd like to help where I can with the JCPRD to help parlay KCFDC involvement as I've built a good relationship with these guys over the past 5 years. I will also do some digging from my contacts to find out what I can.

Here is what I sent to Rieke Lake planners in June...


I have interest in proposing a disc golf course for Rieke Lake.  Since 2003 I have been working directly with the  District Superintendent and Park Staff on the Map 2020 plan for the disc golf course at Shawnee Mission Park. This proposal was accepted and I have spend the last 5 years working with the staff at Shawnee Mission Park designing, refining and installing the course that was opened for public use last fall. We are still in the midst of development, but its initial success is evident.  The course is a low cost, low impact, high return and visible amenity for the park.

The same time the proposal for Shawnee Mission's course was accepted, another disc golf course was approved for Heritage Park, and currently appears on the master plan. CIP funding was also approved at the time for installing a course at Heritage Park for 2008. It is worth investigating whether an alternative disc golf course would be better suited for Rieke Lake as it appears there may be a larger portion of land available for use at Rieke Lake than Heritage.

The Kansas City Flying Disc Club ( would be very happy to make some preliminary observations and recommendations for the feasibility of installing a disc golf course at Rieke Lake.  I believe adding a course at Rieke Lake would offer a great amenity for the park that would be of minimal impact on the land.

What we would need to know initially is what areas of the Rieke Lake might be suitable for a course. Based on those options we would be able to survey the area and proceed with recommendations. As a committee member of the KCFDC  I would be able to offer our resources and expertise in carrying out this project. The KCFDC has helped numerous communities in the area realize disc golf courses in their parks.

Please let us know if we can meet and further discuss details with your staff.

Best Regards,

Dirk Hacker
Disc Golf Course Coordinator for Shawnee Mission Park

Shawnee Mission / Re: SM Park improvements to come!!
« on: July 01, 2008, 10:25:30 AM »
Yes, with the grass cut over the entire course it is playing wonderfully right now. If you enjoy the level of play and improvement please give the park staff some positive feedback so they know we appreciate what they are doing for the community! It matters!

Shawnee Mission / Re: SM Park improvements to come!!
« on: June 30, 2008, 05:32:04 PM »
I've posted follow ups in the Course Improvements thread.

Shawnee Mission / Re: Course Improvements
« on: June 30, 2008, 05:22:54 PM »
We are seeing substantial improvements in playability since the tall grasses covering the back 9 have been mowed.  The course is really living up to its potential now! The staff seemed to be very responsive to the influx of public opinion on maintenance needs, so hopefully the attention to continues to improve.

In order to further define tee areas we have added Tee markers (foot faults) for holes 1 through 10. We are awaiting more rebar from the parks to get the last 8 tees finished. 

After meeting with the park officials it was decided that the approved location for hole 10 could be moved further up the hill and to the west into previously unmowed area. Initially we did not want to add more mowing for the parks but it looks as if they are willing to accommodate this in order to avoid interference with Kite Flyers and Rocket Enthusiasts.

However this weekend the Rocket Enthusiasts just moved up the hill further and set up in the extended mowing area for the fairway, so We'll have to work with the parks in order to get the message out that their is room for all groups to coexist as long as we are aware of each other's needs. Over time I'm sure it will settle out.

We will still keep the longer placement as a longer alternate tee (among several planned) that can be played when the fairway is wide open.  The new primary pad will initially shorten the hole leading to easier 3s and birdable for big arms. this opens up more potential for future longer pin locations. The wind still is, and will be a primary factor for this hole.

There may be times when other patrons interfere with both placements, so just give people a shout and wave to let them know you are playing through. Many courses in the nations more crowded parks coexist amicable to other activities and we will do the same. The entire road along 9, 10, 11 is scheduled to be removed, but that date is unknown to us at the time.

The updated map is in the pinned Course Open thread

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