all of the aforementioned would be entitled "bag aces". doesnt matter if its throw 2 or 2000. the second one always goes in, right keizer? most tourneys/leagues would pay you half of the ace pot if you aced a hole on a second shot as a cali or a mulligan for a charity event. not sure what kc does though. i.e. you would get $2.50 from me if i was with you but i know first hand brad's broke a$$ didnt pay you. he's gonna have to start playing by himself so he can afford rent, lol. congrats on the tag and the bag ace though.