you dont even have to change my last name. just call me DNF. sorry i really really did not want to do that at all this season.... but when you play 8 holes starting on 16 and catch up to the group that started on hole 1, who only played 5 holes... it gets really old waiting for them and the card in front of you to play. took wayyyyyy to long and was just not enjoyable, its not like this is a tourny. Carson, Leo, and the rest of the group where playing slower than 4 handicapped midgets.i thought we catered to the all mighty open players?