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General Banter / park plan disc golf course
« on: April 20, 2006, 12:05:06 am »
The Lake Lenexa park plan certainly does not show the exact location of the future disc golf course, just an approximate location.  I anticipate the final course design to utilize the open field in the middle of the park, as well as a few holes just to the west of the main lake largest cove.  There could possibly be one or two tee shots over water, as well as many holes in the trees.  The elevation changes, a few longer open holes, and some very tight, technical wooded holes should make this a very fun, challenging and scenic course.  Lenexa Parks and Rec has plenty of money for the course.  Expect excellent tee pads, tee signs, the best baskets, benches, etc. to be utilized.  They want to make this a truly outstanding course, one that hopefully will attract experienced players and beginners alike.  We should be presenting a preliminary design within the next few weeks.   I'm looking forward to the next course in Johnson County.  Who knows, after this is in the ground, maybe other municipalities in Johnson County (Overland Park, Leawood,etc.) may contact us to put other courses in.

General Banter / Tom Butler
« on: April 19, 2006, 11:46:41 pm »
Tom's pneumonia apparently was brought on by legionaire's disease, an extremely rare bacterial infection that was first discovered in the 1970's.  Back then this was very often fatal, fortuneately Tom was diagnosed in time to get effective treatment.  It sounds like he will be out of the hospital by the end of the weekend.  I hope to have some time to visit him soon.  Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / league results last three Mondays
« on: April 17, 2006, 09:55:11 pm »

OPEN:                          MASTERS                  AMS:

Otto Spiers   56             Dan Cashen   50        Mike Gardner   60
Brad Merys   47             Steve Norby   55       Bob Hayett   57
Leo Daprato  50             C J Johnson  55         Susan Taylor   72
Dean Uhlman  62           Hal Kurz   54
Ben Taylor   57              Dan Coffman  55
Bryan Guthrie  46          Rick Rothstein  57
Arturo Villereal  47         Steve Hoog   66


Leo Daprato   53                                           Steve Hoog   65
Ryan Schulz   57                                           Bob Hayett    65
Bryan Guthrie   51                                         Leslie Pratt   96
Steve Norby    60                                          Dean Uhlman   61
Andy Lewis   59                                             Dan Forster    66
Ben Taylor   58                                             Eric Myers    69
Tom Butler   55                                             Jonah Green   73
John Chapman  61                                         Mike Gardner   58


Bryan Guthrie  49        Dan Coffman   56         Dean Uhlman  62
Dave Hemmeline  50    C J Johnson  54          Andy Lewis  57
Bobby Villereal  53       Hal Kurz  57               Dan Forster   71
Brad Merys   51           Kelly Warren  60         Eric Myers   67
Vlad Wunschl  56         Dan Cashen   51         Jonah Green  75
Dick Parker   58                                            Bob Hayett   58

I'm seeing all kinds of new faces at Prairie Center.  If you see new people, tell them about the KCFDC.  Tell them about the great tournaments coming up, especially the Wide Open.  Tell them about the leagues we have.  Hand out membership applications, if you don't have them call or visit disc golf world to get them.  Hand them out like candy.  We need new members, especially the younger players I'm seeing out there.   A lot of them don't even know there is a club.  The KCFDC in my opinion should have 500 members, not 200.  Look at all the great courses we have in town.  Who is chiefly responsible for these courses? The KCFDC.  Tell these new players this.  Tell them their membership helps us improve the courses.  Tell them the more members there are, the more volunteers there are, the more we can do to improve the courses.  Visit a busy course on a weekend and hand out applications, even an hour every month or every other month.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / lake lenexa report
« on: April 14, 2006, 11:35:05 pm »
People can visit the park evenings and on weekends.  The dam is complete and the lake will slowly fill over the next eighteen months.  The new disc golf course will be one of the first things in the ground.  Dirk Hacker and I started marking a possible course layout last week, hopefully to be completed this weekend.  This is all very preliminary.  We have to work with a master plan map, and we don't know exactly where all the parking lots, trails, shelters, and other activities are going to exactly be.  I'm sure there's going to be a lot of tweaking towards a final course design.  Lenexa Parks & Rec is also going to bring in a pro course designer, and he might change everything around, who knows.  I like what I see so far.  Most of the holes will be like the Rosedale Down Under course, with five or six out in the open.  Although this won't be a long course, the final design should prove to be challenging and quite fun to play, as well as some holes being very scenic.  There's going to be some good elevation changes, and quite possibly a few shots over water, one of those in the woods!  This is all very exciting, since it will be the first course in Johnson County, other than Prairie Center.  I can see a K-7 tournament sometime in the near future (Prairie Center, Lake Lenexa, Wyco), as all three courses are very close to K-7.  I'm hoping by the end of the Summer to be playing this new course.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / Lake Lenexa progress report
« on: March 30, 2006, 10:17:14 pm »
Dirk Hacker has come up with several interesting designs for courses.  We still have to check certain areas of the park to see where the property lines are and if there's enough land available for us around the dam.  There's a lot of construction going on in the park, so it's not a good idea to visit the park during the week (evenings and weekends are OK).  I believe we're going to end up with a short but challenging course with lots of wooded holes (like Rosedale Down Under) with lots of elevation changes.  Some of the sight lines are going to be wonderful.  The course should be in the ground by the end of the Summer.  We'll keep you informed of any further progress.

Prairie Center / league starts this Monday
« on: March 30, 2006, 10:09:12 pm »
Yet another season starts this Monday.  Ace fund is presently above $500.  As always we will have an open and am division, and masters if enough masters are present.  Yes, I will run the ams with handicaps as usual.  If you have not done so, come check out the new holes 12-16.  These are still a work in progress, more pin placements and tee pads will happen this year hopefully.  Hopefully we'll have the amazing run of no rain-outs on Monday night (just one in seven years!!!).  I'm looking forward to another great year, let's have FUN!!!   :D  :D  :D

General Banter / Interested in a doubles league?
« on: March 12, 2006, 07:02:13 pm »
I'm just wondering how many of you are really interested in participating in a club doubles league this Spring.  Later-Bob Hayett

Winter Leagues / Prairie Center Saturday league
« on: March 10, 2006, 08:34:51 pm »
Only a few weeks left for Saturday league.  Ace fund should be near $500, let's see somebody hit one before Monday night league starts up again.  Attendance has been down a little lately, only 4-11 players, let's see some more people show this Saturday 3/11.  By the way, have you heard about the new course going in Lenexa?  Should be in the ground by Fall THIS YEAR.  I'll be finding out a lot more about it this Sunday.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / New course going in Lenexa
« on: March 09, 2006, 11:29:46 pm »
Any rumors you may have heard about a brand new course in Lenexa ARE TRUE.  I talked with the man in charge of coordinating the new park, and it's a done deal.  He hopes to have it in the ground THIS SUMMER!!!  I'm going to meet with him very soon and discuss preliminary plans and take a visit out to the park site.  He doesn't want anybody going out there  to look around without being accompanied by Lenexa Parks and Rec personnel since it's still under construction and not opened to the public yet.  They have earmarked plenty of funds and want to make it a world class disc golf course.  After the club members come up with a course design they are going to have a pro disc golf course designer come in and give a final tweaking/approval (don't know who that is yet).  A few years ago I got a letter at my house telling me that a new park was being planned for an area just west of 83rd street and Quivira.  The letter invited me (a nearby resident) to go to a town planning meeting to present any ideas I might have.  Jake Carmack and myself went to the meeting and saw this great big map of a different park that was even better suited for a disc golf course.  We made a presentation and struck a good repore with a few of the heads of Lenexa Parks and Rec, long story short a few years later we're getting a new course in Lenexa.  I'll try and keep everyone posted to what's happening.  This is a really good day for disc golf in the Kansas CIty metro area. :D  :D  :D  :D

Prairie Center / reply to replies
« on: March 07, 2006, 06:52:40 pm »
I would be surprised if the city clears any of the vegetation on number 12.  The arborist was very specific not wanting hardly any of that stuff cut.  Once the new houses go in just past the barbed wire fence, it would be an advantage to the new residents to be shielded from the baseball field.  Trees right now are a precious commodity out there because of all the diseased ones they've had to cut down.  I'm definitely putting a deep pin placement on 13 (deep left and straight out) are the two options.  I'm going to have parks and rec pull out old 14 right placement once the new placements are in.  I don't expect to make all the changes this year, but gradually we'll have more variety of tee pads and placements, and maybe even some new tee signs as well.  I'm also going to ask parks and rec if they have any extra benches and trash cans, as a few disappeared last year.  Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / thanks for the response
« on: March 06, 2006, 10:37:39 pm »
The vast majority of people I've talked to really like the new holes.  They are still a work in progress.  I hope to put in another couple of teepads on number 15 (both longer shots over the water).  I'm also going to meet with the arborist and head of mowers out there soon to see if we can get some trees planted to separate number 15 and number 16 fairway, as well as how much the mowers can mow (hopefully past the bare trees beyond the current long pin placement).  We CANNOT cut out any more trees and brush without the arborist's permission.  I"m going to put in an even deeper pin placement, and cut a NARROW path, similar to the paths we already have.  PLEASE DON'T GO OUT THERE AND DO ANY MORE CUTTING.  Sooner or later houses will be going in adjacent to the barbed-wire, and the residents will appreciate a bunch of trees between their new homes and the ballfield.  I'm also going to put new pin placements on 13, 14, 15, and 16, as well as eventually new teepads on some other holes as well.  Through the next year I hope we can make changes to further enhance the course and make it more fun to play.  Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / Lots of new players on the course
« on: March 05, 2006, 10:22:28 pm »
Today was a beautiful day (Sunday 3/5) and there were lots of new people out on the course.  I was moving pins and was happy to see all the new faces out there.  If you happen to be out at Prairie Center and see someone you don't recognize, tell them about the club and about the leagues we have.  A lot of people don't even know there is a club.  With all these new players out at the courses around town we should be able to recruit many new members to the club.  It might just be a matter of mentioning it to them and carrying some membership applications with you.  Later-Your course coordinator Bob Hayett

General Banter / League doubles handicap
« on: February 27, 2006, 05:13:24 pm »
My idea for handicap is NOT to use any handicap during the season.  I believe that by having random draw AND playing a different format every week (best shot, worst shot, alternate shot, etc.) that will in effect make the league play more even.  If we have a club doubles championship it would be the FAIREST to utilize a handicap system to match people up for that event.  For league play handicaps make the most sense for am players, it gives them a chance to win something.  Most of the people I've talked to so far favor a random draw.  They don't want to feel obligated to participate every week, and I agree with that.  As an incentive for participation, having an ace fund that pays 100% or close to 100%, will get more people out to play.  Also, if we do schedule a club doubles championship, and require some level of participation to qualify (say 50%) that also will get more people out.  Also having the doubles play at different courses each week might make it easier for some people to show up.  Another problem I'm hearing is that a lot of players won't be participating on weekends since they are playing various tournaments around the area.  We may want to consider having the doubles during the week somehow.  Again, there's still lots of time to figure out everything.  Keep sending ideas out, you're welcome to call me at 913-888-8863.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / league doubles
« on: February 26, 2006, 11:26:33 pm »
I'm against having the same partner every week.  If two very strong players get teamed up it wouldn't be very fair, regardless of handicap.  Also by having a random draw each week, it is unlikely that one person would have to be cali very often.  Also I wouldn't want a very strong player to play cali very often either.  Paying at the end doesn't make sense to me.  Could you imagine how PISSED OFF someone would be if they participated every week, played in the club doubles championship and won nothing?  By having a random draw and paying every week it gives everyone a chance to win something.  Also by varying the format each week it also gives more people a chance to win something.  As far as the handicap is concerned, I would only use it at the club doubles championship, teaming the player with the lowest  (best) handicap with the player with the highest (worst) handicap.  Again, handicap is based on the position you finish each week, not on the score.  Since we will be playing different courses each week, the scores will probably vary greatly, and it will be much easier to handicap by position.  Also, by using the handicap at the league doubles championship it will be much easier to keep track of everyone's handicap, and much easier to run the double's league, we just show up, have a random draw and play.  I would post each week everyone's finish and the running handicap for the season.  If you happen to play cali any particular week, whatever place you finish that day (third, seventh, first, etc.) would be added in to your handicap as if you played with a partner that day.   I would also like to see a more liberal payout than using the club league singles payout, and I like the idea of paying the ace fund out in full if it is hit, and having a way to completely pay it out at the league doubles championship (CTP is necessary).  Whatever format we eventually play, I'm sure it won't make everyone happy.  I'm open to all suggestions at this point.  We have lots of time to figure it all out.  Later-Bob Hayett

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