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General Banter / league doubles
« on: February 26, 2006, 11:26:33 pm »
I'm against having the same partner every week.  If two very strong players get teamed up it wouldn't be very fair, regardless of handicap.  Also by having a random draw each week, it is unlikely that one person would have to be cali very often.  Also I wouldn't want a very strong player to play cali very often either.  Paying at the end doesn't make sense to me.  Could you imagine how PISSED OFF someone would be if they participated every week, played in the club doubles championship and won nothing?  By having a random draw and paying every week it gives everyone a chance to win something.  Also by varying the format each week it also gives more people a chance to win something.  As far as the handicap is concerned, I would only use it at the club doubles championship, teaming the player with the lowest  (best) handicap with the player with the highest (worst) handicap.  Again, handicap is based on the position you finish each week, not on the score.  Since we will be playing different courses each week, the scores will probably vary greatly, and it will be much easier to handicap by position.  Also, by using the handicap at the league doubles championship it will be much easier to keep track of everyone's handicap, and much easier to run the double's league, we just show up, have a random draw and play.  I would post each week everyone's finish and the running handicap for the season.  If you happen to play cali any particular week, whatever place you finish that day (third, seventh, first, etc.) would be added in to your handicap as if you played with a partner that day.   I would also like to see a more liberal payout than using the club league singles payout, and I like the idea of paying the ace fund out in full if it is hit, and having a way to completely pay it out at the league doubles championship (CTP is necessary).  Whatever format we eventually play, I'm sure it won't make everyone happy.  I'm open to all suggestions at this point.  We have lots of time to figure it all out.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / League doubles
« on: February 26, 2006, 10:02:01 am »
I don't like the idea of having the same partner every week. What if one of you can't make it to a league doubles.  Also what if a month into the season a bunch of new players want to join?  I think random draw is the way to go. I also don't like the idea of not paying out each week and waiting until the end of the year.  We have to keep the sandbagging down to a minimum.  As far as the handicapping, it's much easier to keep track of a handicap based on placement rather than score.  Let's say for example you play for five weeks and the teams you play on finish first, third, eighth, fourth, and fourth, your handicap would be (1+3+8+4+4=20 divided by 5=4) 4.  Also by playing a different format each week (best shot, worst shot, alternate shot,etc.) this would not always favor the strongest players.  The different formats makes the scoring more even.  If we have a club doubles championship at the end of the season then we need to set a minimum doubles league attendance to qualify, say 50% or something.  This way we may get better attendance.  Also I like the idea of an ace fund that pays 100% whenever it's hit, and have a way to pay it all out at the club doubles championship (CTP if needed).  This way we would have better attendance as well.  I appreciate all the input, I'll be looking at all  kinds of doubles formats from disc golf and ball golf and hopefully come up with something that the majority like and want to participate in.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / league doubles
« on: February 24, 2006, 09:26:04 pm »
I've got a good idea of how I want the doubles league to run.  I definitely want to play a different course each week.  We'll probably have random draw for a number of weeks.  Each player will have a handicap based on what place they finish each week.  For example, if I finish first, third, fifth, and then third, my handicap would be third for four weeks of doubles play.  I'd also like to have best shot one week, alternate shot the next week, worst shot the next week, etc.  Maybe at the end of the year we could have a club championship doubles tournament (near the same time as the club singles championship).  In order to qualify to play in the doubles championship a player would have had to participate in maybe a third of the league doubles.  Then I would match the player with the best handicap with the player with the worst handicap, second best handicap with second worst handicap, etc.  At the tournament play alternate shot, this way everyone has a shot to win something.  I would also like to have a separate ace fund for the doubles league, if no aces are hit during the season and the tournament have a CTP contest that pays it all out.  I think this would attract more players to the doubles league and end of season tournament.  These are just some ideas I have.  I really enjoy doubles and I'm looking forward to running a doubles league.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / League doubles
« on: February 23, 2006, 11:20:18 pm »
I have volunteered to run a doubles league.  We talked possibly about starting it at 10:00 on Saturdays.  I would prefer switching courses from week to week.  As far as the format I haven't got that ironed out.

Winter Leagues / Prairie Center Saturday
« on: February 23, 2006, 11:16:36 pm »
The ace fund has grown towards $500 (might be over this).  Come on out and take a crack at it.  Tee off at 11:00.  Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / tee signs
« on: February 23, 2006, 11:10:34 pm »
I personally prefer simple diagrams as opposed to actual aerial photgraphs of the holes.  I think the photo signs they had at Waterworks looked bad, you could hardly see the baskets in the photos.  Also we need to wait until we have all the new pin placements in the ground and there may be new tee pads going in soon as well as possibly moving a few more existing pads.  I'm getting together with parks and rec here in a few weeks to talk about erosion as well as with the mower chief to plan where they will mow on #15 and #16.  As far as pin placements are concerned, we will have another 12 pins very soon, Pete Cashen will be getting me the rest.  Let's be patient on tee signs, I'm all for moving quick on a kiosk course map, especially one that is easily changeable when new pins/and or tee pads go in.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / range finder
« on: February 23, 2006, 11:00:16 pm »
I've got one of those rolling wheels that measures in feet, supposed to be accurate to within one percent.  I'll measure the distances very soon.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / Cigarette butts at the course
« on: February 19, 2006, 07:11:17 pm »
You shouldn't be smoking anyway, that crap is bad for you.  Don't you come out to the course to get fresh air?

Prairie Center / Future pin placements and new tee boxes desired for '06
« on: February 19, 2006, 06:56:22 pm »
This is your course coordinator Bob Hayett.  We made a lot of changes (hopefully for the better and safer) recently.  I would like to see continued progress this year.  I'm planning an additional 12 pin placements throughout the course, and I hope we will have an additional seven new tee box locations as well.  Some of these changes should be accomplished by Olathe Parks and Rec, but most will be done by the club (KCFDC).  I would also love to see new tee signs (I prefer ones with diagrams as opposed to actual photos of the holes) that we can put right on the existing tee markers out there.  I'll be contacting the arborist soon to see if they have any extra trees they can plant since a good number of diseased pine trees had to be removed.  The Saturday league is still happening with anywhere from four to eleven players, as well as the Monday night glow league.  Before the recent cold snap there were a lot of new faces out at the course.  I'm hoping we can get some of them to play in the leagues and also join the club.  If you happen to see them tell them about the leagues and club.  Most of them don't even know the KCFDC exists.  Always remember, clear any work you'd like to do out there with me first. Come check out the leagues, all players are welcome to play.  Later-Bob Hayett

General Banter / doubles league
« on: January 27, 2006, 11:56:16 pm »
Doubles league is a GREAT IDEA!  I also like having it with handicaps.  Instead of playing a different course each week, how about playing for a month at each course and awarding payouts the last league of each month.  Then at the end of the year play a club championship doubles tournament?  Maybe the week before or after the club singles championship?  Award the trophies and grand prize money at the club picnic?   :!:  :?:

Beginners / disc weights
« on: January 20, 2006, 08:27:01 pm »
I generally throw drivers in the 160-170g weights, lighter weights uphill or with a tail wind, heavier weights into the wind or downhill.  I definitely like midrange/long approach/putts with the heaviest discs I can find.  The wind has the least effect on these heavier discs.  Almost all my midrange and putters weigh between 177-180g.  I wish they made a 200g putter, I'd buy it.

General Banter / what's in my bag?
« on: January 16, 2006, 11:44:34 pm »
I carry different discs depending on the weather conditions, plus I'm always experimenting with different discs every month.  Right now I have:

Orion 163g (One of the straightest drivers I've ever thrown, would like to try a heavier one)
Innova Star Beast 170g (Main driver lately)
Innova Star T-Bird 164g and 170g (For me flies pretty overstable)
DX Aviar Putt & Approach 175g (Use it when there's little or no wind)
#1 Slice 180g (Straight or slightly understable midrange shots)
#3 Hyzer 179g (Overstable midrange shots)
#3 Flyer 166g (For very understable shots)
Rubber Putter 177g (The most wind resistant putter I've ever thrown,works very well for short understable shots)
#1 Upshot 180g (Straight or overstable putts in the wind)
DX Innova Aero 180g (Straightest short approach and long putter I've ever thrown)

In general I like midrange discs and putters in heavy weights.  If someone made a 200g putter I would buy it.

Prairie Center / Saturday league results
« on: January 14, 2006, 07:29:12 pm »
Dan C/Brad Merys    49
Dan Z/Sean E   49
Andy L/David H   49
Bob H/Bryan G   47

Lots of wind, good shooting in the wind.  Lots of other people playing the course out there.  Thanks for attending.  Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / Volunteering is great but CALL ME FIRST when doing work
« on: January 11, 2006, 11:57:45 pm »
There's been a few messages about doing work, and I more than appreciate anybody helping out, but I can't stress this point enough: GET WITH ME FIRST about doing anything out there.  This is especially true about clearing ANY vegetation, even thorn bushes.  The arborist  for Olathe does not want us clearing anything out there without his permission.  A few years ago somebody cut the lower branches of the pine tree in the middle of Number 18 fairway (not that far from the short tee pad) and we got SERIOUSLY SCOLDED for that.  A lot of the pine trees out there are orange (diseased) and are going to be removed soon.  If something healthy gets cut without permission I guarantee that will be a BAD thing.  As far as "build it, they will come" my motto is "improve it and more will come" Later-Bob Hayett

Prairie Center / locks at Prairie Center
« on: January 10, 2006, 08:52:09 pm »
First and foremost we definitely need covers for the pin placements.  Have you ever tried to clean out a pin placement that some kid has dumped rocks and dirt in?  It's definitely not fun.  I'll check with a locksmith and Pete Cashen and hopefully come up with an affordable solution.  It would just make my job a whole lot easier to have one key and the same lock on every placement out there.  I agree with Andy's wish list.  This, however is VERY IMPORTANT.  I don't want anybody doing ANY WORK out there without checking with me first.  I more than appreciate any good intentions that people may have.  Olathe parks and rec MUST be informed first of any work to be done out there.  I am going to check first with Olathe parks and rec on any work that needs to be done around the existing tee pads or anywhere else for that matter.  They were more than happy to help us with the course changes out there and I'm sure they'll be happy to help us out again this year.  I've got a good working relationship with them, I don't want to jeopardize this.   I expect really good things to happen at PC this year.  The number of golfers has dramatically increased the last few weeks.  Later-Your course coordinator Bob Hayett

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