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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by SteelerDoug on March 16, 2017, 09:34:55 AM »
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by Nova on March 16, 2017, 09:16:59 AM »
As someone who moves with a purpose, I could rant about this topic for hours. Dawdling, not having one's sh1t together, spending excessive time counting on one's fingers (and toes) when tallying scores, and the like drive me quite insane. 
 
Edit: Winston Wolf's wisdom on the topic of moving fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPsHKpti48&t=3m40s
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Young Park - Blue Springs / 3-15 work day
« Last post by john theiss on March 15, 2017, 08:00:37 PM »
7 hours of invasive removal
-honey suckle
-russian olive
-multi-flora rosa

Thanks to all that came out.  Great work.
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by Tracy on March 15, 2017, 05:02:22 PM »
When there are cards on all 18 holes for tournaments, the pace of play can only be as fast as the slowest card on the course. When cards are arranged in the 2nd round by scores, this becomes even more of an issue.

I've observed good rated players shooting quite low scores holding up tournament progress. It's not about that 30 second "shot routine."  What's slowing the card down is the stuff they're doing the other 15+ minutes per hole.

So I don't think it's fair to say the players making the most throws throughout a round are typically the slowest on the course.  Sure more throws inherently takes a bit longer. But some extra shots isn't an issue if the group is conscious of their position relative to the group in front of them. The problem is all the diddling around in between shots, not being ready when it's a players turn, dawdling about between holes and taking more than a moment to get scores down and get right up on the next tee, that eventually leads to a cards slow play and falling behind.

Additionally, the clause in the excessive time rule I posted previously is the "reasonable amount of time to arrive at the disc" is totally subjective and thus basically non-enforceable. So you have to rely on the Speed of Play rule in Code of Conduct as what is "falling behind" is less subjective.  However, that rule can only be called by a tournament official, which there may be only one at the event. As such, the TD is unable to effectively marshal the entire course for speed of play.
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by ASchout on March 15, 2017, 04:09:51 PM »
When there are cards on all 18 holes for tournaments, the pace of play can only be as fast as the slowest card on the course. When cards are arranged in the 2nd round by scores, this becomes even more of an issue.
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by MK on March 15, 2017, 02:17:52 PM »
I just had this discussion with a person who was on a card that was holding up a tournament I was running.  In my next player meeting, it will be a point of emphasis.
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Leagues / KCFDC pdga league wandering Wednesday
« Last post by MK on March 15, 2017, 12:55:59 PM »
And so it begins with a chilly Wednesday evening,  tonight March 15.  We will start with a Battle of Blue Valley preview, heading to a shortened Blue Valley (Mo) course.

Sign up at 445, cards of three ideally out at 500.  Sunset is 7:26, civil twilight ends at 7:56.  Lights will be allowed if needed due to conditions.

KCFDC Divisions offered, based on past participation:

Cash payout
Open
Masters

Funny money payout
Advanced Men
Advanced Women
Intermediate Men

Pdga divisions will be only Open (pro) and Advanced Men (am).  Those divisions give the most points.  Ratings do not change because of divisions.  League wins don't count on your pdga history.

Cost: $5 for KCFDC members and $6 for non-members.  Add a buck for the ace fund.  The ace fund for the traveling league starts at $210.

This is a 7 week pdga league.  These ratings will be in by the deadline so they will count for the KCWO, if you need rated rounds for the performance flight.

Schedule:

Mar 15 Blue Valley modified
Mar 22 Rosedale up top, before they start their league. 515 tee.
Mar 29 Swope, using some alt baskets.  Putting competition at Crane Brewery after league to support the KC Diva Feeva. 515 tee.
Apr 5 Bad Rock Creek layout TBD.  530 tee.
Apr 12 Water Works (battle of Water Works preview) - Scott Reek can preview the NGT at Heritage that evening :) 530 tee.
Apr 19 - Shawnee Mission Park.  All tall grass OB.  Just kidding.  Layout TBD.  I will change it from the Tuesday layout Matthew Jenkins does, at least a little. 545 tee
Apr 26 - Cliff Drive (City of Fountains layout,  if I can get Scott to name the setup and Jack or drew to help with baskets)  545 tee.

End of 7 week session.

Session 2 will start with Blue Valley CoF layout on May 3.  Look for more tournament previews, including a trip to Blackthorn on May 17.  I may be alone as Smithville is a ways to travel.

3.15 Layout from the BBV event page:

Here it is folks! The layout for the Battle of Blue Valley! using a combination of the two courses out there. I think everyone will enjoy the track!

Hole 1 - #1 pad to #1 short
        2 - Temp pad by bush/lightpole to #1 long
        3 - #2 pad to #2 short
        4 - #3 pad to #3 short
        5 - Temp pad on concrete penninsula to #4 JR on hill
        6 - #3 JR pad to #3 JR
        7 - #4 JR pad to #5 JR - mando to the right of the trees on left of pad
        8 - Temp pad on sidewalk by road to #3 long
        9 - #4 pad to #4 short
       10 - #5 pad to #5 short
       11 - #6 pad to #6 short left
       12 - #7 pad to #7 short
       13 - #8 pad to #8 short
       14 - #9 pad to "Inside Track" #9 basket
       15 - #9 Alt pad to #9 short
       16 - #10 Alt pad to #10 long
       17 - #11 pad to #11 middle (In trees - left placement)
       18 - #12 pad to #12 short on mound

Par 56, not sure yet of distance.

See ya at Blue Valley!
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by Tracy on March 15, 2017, 12:47:43 PM »
Someone doesn't like 5 1/2 hour rounds I see. lol

It's mind boggling that it takes over 18 minutes per hole for four players to complete a round.   Try this, get 3 of your buddies together at a course, pick one hole of average length for that course.  Start a stopwatch,  everyone throw, then... crawl...  yes, literally get on your hands and knees and crawl to your disc.  Each player gets up throws and crawls finishing the hole in this manner. Then crawl to the next tee, take scores and finally stop the clock.  I'll bet you finish that 1 hole process  faster than 18 minutes.  Faster,  crawling.  WTF?
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by BenC on March 15, 2017, 12:17:04 PM »
It is truly maddening to see someone stop to take a picture during the round, with three open holes in front of them, two groups waiting on the tee with a third group walking up to join the wait. But it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as their picture turned out great. Come on Tracy it's not like you gave money to PLAY golf.  Didn't you pay to sit around and watch.
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Tournaments / Re: Pace of Play
« Last post by dickthediscparker on March 15, 2017, 10:22:32 AM »
Someone doesn't like 5 1/2 hour rounds I see. lol
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