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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« Last post by Tracy on February 10, 2016, 10:09:27 am »
Just for the record, this event did not start as "the best of the best". It has become an elitist event. Having to play in PDGA rounds to qualify for a local club event is ridiculous IMO. We should have spots for over 50 players and over 60 players. Without them, we wouldn't have the KCFDC. On the shoulders of giants, standing we are. Let's act like it.

E, yes, it is an elitist (that's not a bad word)  event. It was fully intended to be the best of the best, from the beginning. First proposed and organized as best of open, best of masters and best of women.  The Kansas City Team Challenge (that's the correct name of the event), is the only elitist event in the area. There are a plethora of events either directly club hosted or held on club courses that are come one come all.   Take away the elitism, of the KCTC and it just becomes another of many events catering to the masses.  The event would then lose its prestige and luster and eventually just fade away, because there is no prize money or coveted players pack to lure players.

You don't "have" to play in a PDGA event to qualify for this. In fact, there are rules restricting how many players can be pulled from PDGA sanctioned events.  All the other spots on each team come from non-PDGA events. If the spots for the women come from the Diva Feeva, that is probably the right call. As the best of the best women from our area really should be playing in that event.

If we want to recognize, in some way, the giants of our community, in association with this event.  Offer them a Captain spot (player or not).  Not unlike the Ryder Cup does or the NFL Pro Bowl does.   If their team wins, their name will go on the trophy, with the players, to be honored for all time. 
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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« Last post by dickthediscparker on February 10, 2016, 10:05:46 am »
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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by jack on February 10, 2016, 09:42:00 am »
Actually. ...I would think Golf Carts as an essential tool for maintaining the disc golf course's.
When I was building ball courses...We had one with a dump cart on it. (Place to carry tools, haul dirt, rock..ect ect..
It was a modified club car.
But we also had little dump bed gas toro's...those ran like a bat out of hell.
And then there was John Deere , who would regularly drop equipment off to test out..The gators , Tractors, Bobcats, ect ect.
All your golf ball courses have maintance carts.
A must have ....

This very different, but very true, and why there are many 4-wheelers out there that get used in this manner.....  Disc golf courses are a few hundred yards, and ball golf courses are thousands of yards, so the need to be as far away from vehicles isn't as bad in MANY disc golf courses.
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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by Steve the Quiz Berry on February 10, 2016, 09:39:07 am »
Actually. ...I would think Golf Carts as an essential tool for maintaining the disc golf course's.
When I was building ball courses...We had one with a dump cart on it. (Place to carry tools, haul dirt, rock..ect ect..
It was a modified club car.
But we also had little dump bed gas toro's...those ran like a bat out of hell.
And then there was John Deere , who would regularly drop equipment off to test out..The gators , Tractors, Bobcats, ect ect.
All your golf ball courses have maintance carts.
A must have ....
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Tournaments / Re: East Vs. West 2016--June 18th and 19th Location TBD
« Last post by jack on February 10, 2016, 09:38:35 am »
"don't %$#@ with it"--Pete Cashen (this was not his response, but one he has given to me years and years....and years.....

I think adding women is good, there is a demand, and it looks right to do.

I think if you want to go with the format that is in the article, that is a new item, and not the E v. W.  It would be something different.

I personally had envisioned a more N v. E v. W v. S when this started, and you would have courses that would be North, East, West or South linked up to fill roster spots, but the KS v. MO thing works, it works well, and has come into a spot of its own.....even if the West Side tries to bring FAR WEST people like Val and Nate!

:-p

EAST side, we stay local.....cuz we care
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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by jack on February 10, 2016, 09:31:32 am »
Couple of reasons as stated here.  PDGA allows them ONLY if everyone has access to them.  So, like when we were in Japan, EVERYONE was given a cart for 2, and the entire field used them.  They just weren't allowed off the cart path, no matter who you were, video crews etc MUST stay on the cart path.

The other is P&R in most cases (includes KCMO) do not allow motorized vehicles in the park, now it does happen, but they can be written up if abused.  Most disc golfers that have carts on the course are seemingly well behaved, but technically it is against the rules, and you could be given a ticket.

Then the third reason, exercise.  Walking is part of the sport, it gives you a better vantage of the throwing options, so it helps in many aspects.

Same thing in Emporia in that they are MISSING $$$, if they were to charge an additional $20 and get carts out there on the golf courses for each player it is $$$ generated that would really put some juice to them.  To me personally paying $20 more but knowing that I would be on a cart on the golf courses is money well spent.  It gives them $18,000 of straight money to the courses at 900 players....something nice for certain that I think the courses would LOVE.  Just hold them to the rules and make cart paths only.....
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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by robm on February 10, 2016, 09:30:10 am »
I like to think of disc golf as a form of exercise.  Using a cart really defeats that purpose.

Ditto.

I've used a motorized golf cart at Municipal in Emporia to play disc golf.  I found it to not be worth it.  Carts are to remain on the cart path.  By the time you walk to your disc, walk back to the cart, etc., you are not saving that much walking.

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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by Kevin Montgomery on February 10, 2016, 09:29:21 am »
Like on a ball golf course if the course doesn't have cart paths then it shouldn't be allowed. That would just invite damage to the course. The only time a golf cart should be allowed on a disc golf course is for a TD on a large course during a tournament for convenience or to aid in setup in my opinion.

Of course the manual pull-behind or push carts are common and fine to use. I have a re-purposed jogging stroller I use sometimes while others have cool carts built specifically for disc golf.
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General Banter / Re: No Disc Golf carts?
« Last post by ASchout on February 10, 2016, 07:57:23 am »
I like to think of disc golf as a form of exercise.  Using a cart really defeats that purpose.
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