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General Banter / Re: The 'Official' ACE Thread!
« Last post by jhinck2 on July 22, 2014, 09:35:38 PM »
Got hole 1 at Stocksdale tonight. Not sure on the distance, but threw a DD verdict. First throw, first hole. Bowen, Perry and my brother as witnesses.  Course is looking good, can't wait until it's fully complete!!
Pleasant Hill / Re: Rut Roh
« Last post by Aaron on July 22, 2014, 09:13:19 PM »
Sure would be nice if instead of fines going to the police they made the guilty party's fix the ruts!!!
Pleasant Hill / Rut Roh
« Last post by Steve the Quiz Berry on July 22, 2014, 08:43:55 PM »
 :D Three  Different trucks, two seperate nights.
Three People caught and charge with destruction of lake property.(Digging Ruts)
Fines could total 500 bucks each plus court cost..
One female truck driver denied digging ruts, witnesses confirm she cause damage.
What Jack means to say is you hook up a 4x4 to the stump and just yank it out. 
7/21/14 League

It was a little toasty tonight, but bearable.

No Open Players

1. Josh McVey, 54, $10 Lawrence Loot
2. Ryan Sipple, 55, $6
3. Jude Chino, 58, $4
4. Harold Berciunas, 59
5. Rob Martin, 62

1. Deb Chino, 74, $4 Lawrence Loot

We have two weeks left of this league.  The cancelled league way back will not be made up.  August 4 is the last evening.

If an Ace has not been hit, we will do a CTP to divide the money.  Only those that have donated to the Ace Fund will be eligible.
Ace Fund is at $37
entire STUMP removal is better than TOrdon.  Years of experience have taught me this.  I have used it, and it will continue to grow, even if applied correctly.

If you want to learn how to remove it stumps and all, come on out to Cliff this weekend and watch, and then help and learn! ;D
General Banter / Re: AM Worlds Query.....and possibly Pro.....
« Last post by jack on July 22, 2014, 04:31:27 PM »
I have a whole spreadsheet of this as well as the Pro's, and I have it broken down as well for a combined total and percentages of participants for the worlds.  Now I don't take out DNF's, I leave them in as well though...the interesting thing to me is that 2009 was the BIGGEST worlds until 2011 in Charlotte.  and this year provided that the pools stay at their current level will have the largest AM and Pro worlds since then.  KC actually had more AM's than Emporia last year in the 2009 worlds.  I do NOT count Jr's in the total in case you wonder how that happens.  Jr worlds, though important typically don't equate to more than one pool that needs to be monitored.  In some years it is separated away from the other worlds, recently it has been part of the Am's for the most part.  Not to diminish, but statistically you know its one pool.

Now as for the mapping of the worlds, you need to look at the trends.  A brief glance indicates that the MM1 pool large one year, the next year the MG1 tends to go up the next......except it has flattened and mirrored each other since Charlotte, so nowyou plan and map a pool for each division, where this year there are 145 in those divisions, last year there was 165, so Emporia chose to open more slots than Minnesota, but they have more attendees as they are looking at 530 in the AM field versus 476 last year in Emporia.  So there is 20 slots that didn't happen, and you can bet it was a decision to not have a different pool with multiple divisions. 

Each TD makes a call as to what makes the most sense to them and their staff.  Last year Lemon Lake had 47 Pro Masters, and 57 Grandmasters, in 2010, they had 62 Pro Masters and 57 Grand Masters, both were lower, Pros were as well.  So the mystic of a new location can also add to that.  If you enjoyed playing you may return, if you played it, you may go elsewhere this year to play a new adventure....

You work closely on determining pools at the onset, and your courses, your staff, and the ability to work it.  Des Moines did 3 sets of tee times in 2004, I did 2 in 2003, this all matters on staff and scheduling. 

It is a nightmare to look at over and over again, but ultimately you hope to balance what is fair, then what works, and what will be balanced in competition.

This year clearly the MM1 and MG1 got less than last year, and FAR LESS than Charlotte (216 there) so almost 25 % from Emporia, and 33% from this year.....but it does mirror almost all other locations that hosted a "AM WORLDS" only, as only those that ran the combined appear to be able to manipulate the system to more than what you are seeing now.....
General Banter / Friday Traveling League - 7/25/2014 9am Waterworks
« Last post by hberciunas on July 22, 2014, 04:31:25 PM »
Waterworks should be set for the  MAC. Ace fund  $346.
PM round by request.
Tournaments / Re: 2014 Trilogy Challenge - Swope Park, MO - July 20th
« Last post by jhinck2 on July 22, 2014, 04:09:45 PM »
Everyone lost. It was very sad.

Timko, I will be there this weekend to weed eat those holes. The idea we use when we move it is for the players to walk it down and it works out well. I will be pulling out the old wood also that is laying in the brush on number one and other fairways.
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