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Title: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on May 18, 2010, 07:15:42 AM
#1 Short
#2 Long
#3 Long
#4 Long
#5 Short
#6 Long
#7 Long
#8 Long
#9 Only
#10 Only
#11 Long
#12 Only
#13 Right
#14 Only
#15 Short
#16 Only
#17 Long
#18 Long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on May 18, 2010, 07:19:06 AM
Pins moved by LSPR on 5/17...
  #1 Right
  #4 Short
  #13 Left
  #15 Long
  #17 Short
  #18 Long

I believe this setup will play a couple of strokes higher on the SSA...
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on November 08, 2010, 08:35:22 PM
LSPR moved the following pins today:
  #2 Short
  #3 Short
  #8 Short
  #17 Short
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on February 17, 2011, 02:10:49 PM
LSPR moved the following pins today:

  #1 Long
  #2 Long
  #7 Short
  #8 Long
  #11 Short
  #15 Short
  #17 Long
  #18 Long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: will on March 19, 2011, 04:34:49 PM
grumpy
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: john theiss on March 19, 2011, 05:45:42 PM
probable duece looks if advanced players (able to throw 300ft) and makes decent hyzer throws

#2 duece hole- hyzer
#6 duece hole-spike hyzer
#9 duece hole -hyzer
#11 duece hole-hyzer
#12 duece hole hyzer
#13 duece hole-hyzer
#14 duece hole for any skill
#15 duece hole
#16 duece hole for any skill-highly aceable


 nine birdie chances out there for advanced players and at least four for intermed and two for beginners. 
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on March 21, 2011, 12:19:33 PM
1 3 4 5 6 7 8 15 17 18 are all close to 300 ft. in the short setting aready. for a beginer it wont make much a a differnce if its 50- 150 ft longer. the point is to have fun not to worry about how long the holes are.
Also i am out there at least every other day and see a lot of rec players out there. i have talked to make and asked what they think. not one person comments on the baskets being too long. they see it as more of a challenge to be conquered.

Disc golf is about having fun
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: john theiss on March 21, 2011, 01:42:06 PM
if you play ball golf how often do you get a birdie look, 1-2 birds per course is about the norm.    Why should beginners, intmed, adv players think they should shoot consistently at par or under?  A first time ball golfer shoots under 100 and they think that is spectacular.  If you shoot Legacy under 85 as a first timer i would think the same thing. 

Doug, you do not take beginners to a course that is a blue level course and wonder why it is so long.  The lenght of the course does not suit at beginner at this point.  If alternative pads were installed on some holes it  would make playing Legacy more enjoyable for beginners.  But  I would never take a beginner to Legacy i would take them to Phill or Yates.  What did you expect the newbie to shoot or say?  The course is a little longer than normal but  it also is mowed down short and this is a great time to be able to find your disc in the longer placements.  When the rough is taller it is frustrating to have  things long when all your shots are going into the rough. 

i agree that balance is a good thing and it is playing a little longer than normal but it wont be like that for months. 
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: john theiss on March 21, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
Normal from what?  How it was set up in the past by Palmer or Dan?  You have two years to base that on?  Jay had them move a couple baskets a little longer and its not that big of a deal for a couple weeks.

 Contacting and bothering city officials with disc golf seems a little bit to be jumping the gun when it is low revenue generator for them.  All you are going to do is annoy the city and then they will go to a schedule rotation taking away from what the club has traditional done.   Give Jay some time to figure out a configuration before you call in the cavalry.  You just posted some stuff and i hope you do not expect Jay to jump right on your recommendations immediately.  You should be able to play in LS  but the course is not that much longer than it "normally is" so the beginners would be complaining regardless of 2-3 holes being longer.  Plus most new players complain about the rough out there, not the length.  Jay is right about having fun and give him some time get things all figured out.



Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: jhinck2 on March 22, 2011, 03:29:57 PM
Legacy is a long course for beginners even in the short positions, at least in my opinion.  The wind is almost always a factor at Legacy, and if you struggle to throw 300, it's going to give you trouble as is.  And if these beginners you speak of are just learning, Yates, a whopping ten minutes away, is the perfect place to be.  I don't see any problem in having the long positions set up for the few months of the year when the grass is mowed and you aren't terrified to throw a blind tee shot into grass three feet tall.  I understand the concern, but as John said, it's not a permanent move.  A majority of courses don't even have multiple pin placements, so why not enjoy and make the best of the options you do have?!?!
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: phisherman_77 on March 22, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
it's no use trying to talk sense into doug on this topic.  he feels that as a taxpayer, the baskets should be where he wants.  him and i have had this conversation before.

remember, we live in an instant gratification society.  people want birdies and aces NOW.

not all new players feel like this though; a gentleman that went to high school with me has just started playing.  he takes his kids out to legacy all the time and he loves it.  this guy doesn't throw far either.  a hole like 4 on the long position is probably a good 5-6 shots for him, but i've never heard him complain about the length of the course when we talk.  so, not ALL new players complain about the length.

furthermore, if anyone currently involved with the course would like to make up a schedule for pin movement that replaces the one that i did, please feel free.  the 4 rotations that i put together were supposed to represent a fair mix of holes, but with a course like legacy, more or less any layout is still going to be long.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dickthediscparker on March 22, 2011, 03:37:50 PM
I'm still shocked anyone responded in the first place.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on May 20, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
The pins were moved about three weeks ago because of the grass. when the rough is mowed there will be some holes moved.
i asked for one and eleven to be moved but they didnt.

1 long
2 short
3 long
4 short
5 long
6 short
7 long
8 short
9 normal

10 normal
11 short
12 normal
13 left
14 normal
15 long
16 normal
17 short
18 short.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: CRAMNATION7 on June 24, 2011, 10:03:16 AM
1 s
2 s
3 s
4 s
5 s
6 L
7 L
8 S
9 N
10 N
11 L
12 N
13 LEFT
14 N
15 L
16 N
17 L
18 S
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on July 16, 2011, 09:14:13 AM
LSPR moved the following pins this week:

  #2 Long
  #3 Long
  #4 Long
  #8 Long
  #15 Short
  #18 Long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: Saturn on August 20, 2011, 06:03:32 PM
1 long left
2 short
3 long left over hill
4 short in trees
5 long left
6 long
7 short just over hill
8 long left
9 regular style
10 regular style (is there a 2nd placement here?  I always forget to look)
11 short left
12 regular
13 left
14 regular (there is a downed treefence from the storm last night - not sure if it's able to be salvaged)
15 short left
16 short
17 short
18 long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: will on August 21, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
14 regular (there is a downed treefence from the storm last night - not sure if it's able to be salvaged)

pretty sure that's a goner
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on August 22, 2011, 09:15:09 AM
Depends what LSPR decides to do (the main root is still firmly in the ground, so it shouldn't die)...so unless they decide to cut it out, it'll continue to grow while laying on the ground....does make the righty hyzer line a wee bit more difficult. :'(
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: phisherman_77 on August 22, 2011, 10:26:25 AM
Depends what LSPR decides to do (the main root is still firmly in the ground, so it shouldn't die)...so unless they decide to cut it out, it'll continue to grrow while laying on the ground....does maker the righty hyzer line a wee bit more difficult. :'(

yep, thankfully I have started to throw the flick there instead.

dan's challenger anny line is still safe.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: Saturn on September 01, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
Pins moved as of last Sunday (August 28th).

1 long left
2 short left
3 short right
4 long
5 long
6 short
7 long at bottom of hill
8 short behind tree
9 regular
10 regular
11 long
12 regular
13 left
14 regular
15 short left
16 short
17 long
18 short

I believe that's accurate.  Someone correct me in case my memory is terrible.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: Saturn on September 11, 2011, 10:13:35 PM
Rough was mowed as of 9/7.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on July 20, 2012, 10:37:21 AM
LSPR moved the following pins this week:

#1 Short
#5 Short
#11 Long
#15 Long
#18 Long

Current Setup is:

#1 Short
#2 Long
#3 Long
#4 Long
#5 Short
#6 Long
#7 Long
#8 Long
#9 Only
#10 Only
#11 Long
#12 Only
#13 Left
#14 Only
#15 Long
#16 Only
#17 Short
#18 Long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on August 10, 2012, 11:09:18 AM
Current pin settings (pins with asterisk were moved):

#1 Short
#2 Long
#3 Short *
#4 Short *
#5 Short
#6 Long
#7 Short *
#8 Long
#9 Only
#10 Only
#11 Long
#12 Only
#13 Right *
#14 Only
#15 Long
#16 Only
#17 Long *
#18 Long
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on August 31, 2012, 01:49:01 PM

Current pin settings (pins with asterisk were moved):

#1 Short
#2 Short *
#3 Short
#4 Short
#5 Long *
#6 Short *
#7 Short
#8 Short *
#9 Only
#10 Only
#11 Long
#12 Only
#13 Right
#14 Only
#15 Short *
#16 Only
#17 Long
#18 Short *
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: jhinck2 on August 31, 2012, 02:09:42 PM
I think we have some real options for new pin placements on the holes with only one pin location.
#9 left and long. Maybe plant a small cedar guardian tree? Still have to avoid the trees halfway down.
#10 beyond creek. Let's make it I reachable shall we? ;)
#12 LEFT. By far the best option.
#14 tucked left in trees or even on far side of creek. Far side of creek would be a sloped hill pin with potential to be wet on a runaway (if it were ever full of water)
#16 left behind large tree and cedar. Hyzer route for both righty and lefty.

Granted, LS parks and rec would have to approve. But we have option. Honestly there should be two if not three courses here as is...
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: phisherman_77 on August 31, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
just a quick reply here, I suggested a long pin on 14 over the creek and that got quickly denied by LSPR.  FYI.  they didn't want to have to build any kind of bridge there; kind of a safety issue.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: jhinck2 on August 31, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
Disclosure statement at the entrance to the park. Play at your own risk. LSPR will not be responsible for any injuries sustained while in the park. Let's be honest those locust trees are JUST as dangerous as an empty creek bed.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: phisherman_77 on August 31, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
i agree with you jordan.  trust me.  just letting you know. 
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: eeastwood on August 31, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
I think we have some real options for new pin placements on the holes with only one pin location.
#9 left and long. Maybe plant a small cedar guardian tree? Still have to avoid the trees halfway down.
#10 beyond creek. Let's make it I reachable shall we? ;)
#12 LEFT. By far the best option.
#14 tucked left in trees or even on far side of creek. Far side of creek would be a sloped hill pin with potential to be wet on a runaway (if it were ever full of water)
#16 left behind large tree and cedar. Hyzer route for both righty and lefty.

Granted, LS parks and rec would have to approve. But we have option. Honestly there should be two if not three courses here as is...

I may have some suggestions to help get approval.  Who lives in Lees Summit?  Best for it to be proposed by them.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: Jake B on August 31, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
I do
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on October 13, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
Current pin settings (pins with asterisk were moved):

#1 Long *
#2 Short
#3 Long *
#4 Long *
#5 Short *
#6 Short
#7 Long *
#8 Short
#9 Only
#10 Only
#11 Short *
#12 Only
#13 Right
#14 Only
#15 Short
#16 Only
#17 Short *
#18 Long *
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: Flying J on April 14, 2013, 07:46:30 PM
Any chance we can get the pins moved?  The current settings have gotten old.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: phisherman_77 on April 14, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
I don't think any club people have a key to the baskets.  You can always try to e-mail the parks department.  I don't have any of their contact info anymore though.
Title: Re: Pin Settings
Post by: dclabe on April 15, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
I sent a re-request to have the following pins moved today (originally requested these on 2/13 before all the snow & rain...been injured so I hadn't followed up).

#1 Long
#2 Short
#6 Short
#8 Long
#13 Right
#15 Long
#17 Long