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Title: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 18, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
If you were to only have 1 hour at clover dell. What holes would you suggest? Signature holes, tough holes, important holes for placement etc. I saw pictures of the front 9 on dgcoursereview but not pics of the back 9.

Thanks
Adam
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: dickthediscparker on September 18, 2012, 03:34:38 PM
10 is a must. and then probably 12-18
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on September 18, 2012, 04:45:52 PM
If you have never been there I would spend a few minutes just locating the pins on the front nine. One of the biggest complaints I hear from people is about blind pins behind cedars on the front 9. This is mainly on #4-7 and #9. Then on the back I concur with Dick, #10 definitely. Then if you can only hit a few you need to see where #12 is then for sure check out #14 and #16. #18 is a little tricky but mostly long with OB on the left. The others are pretty straightforward.

I haven't heard how the Bluebird folks plan to play OB on the back nine but I have it in my mind to play the path and beyond is OB on #10, #11, #12 and of course water is OB and comes into play on #10-#14. There are fences that are OB and can come into play on the front nine too on #1-3 and #5, 6 and if you're really unlucky #7. But #1 is the most common OB fence. The others are rare.

Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 19, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
Excellent, Pictures?
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on September 19, 2012, 01:05:04 PM
I have shots of #10 and #14 up on Facebook. If you have an account join the Clover Dell Park Disc Golf Course group. Otherwise, you might be able to get to the using this link.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.438114519553233&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.438114519553233&type=1)
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 19, 2012, 01:24:59 PM
Real nice pics. Great pics of 10. Thanks, does hole 10 play as a par 5 or 4. and on 14 305' to make the green, thats pretty good shot.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on September 19, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Real nice pics. Great pics of 10. Thanks, does hole 10 play as a par 5 or 4. and on 14 305' to make the green, thats pretty good shot.

We haven't had enough rounds recorded to really call it a par 4 or 5 yet but we are thinking par 4. Right now #10 is playing a bit easier because the overflow pond that it throws over is nearly dry from the drought. #14 measured out at 268' from pad to pin with a GPS but plays a bit longer in my opinion. There is an escape route to the right that plays for a pretty easy three but there is danger either way you go. We still haven't settled on the drop-zone but it will likely be over in the escape route area about where a decent shot to the right would land. It should offer the folks that land in the water and end up at the drop-zone a shot at a pretty easy circle four.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 19, 2012, 02:05:10 PM
Cool, I put the pics up on dgcoursereview
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: dickthediscparker on September 19, 2012, 02:09:28 PM
Now if you could only update that poor review of blackthorn :)
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 19, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
It was 'reasonable' not 'poor' and I did. Congrats and see you in Sedalia
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: dickthediscparker on September 19, 2012, 03:01:57 PM
haha. I'm just messing with you.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: KCVinnie on September 19, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
From what I remember, the tee signs were not accurate on the front, like maybe a new pin placement had been added after the sign was made.  It was hot that day and I was in a hurry, so it could have just been the heat and the running I was doing to finish the front in under 20 minutes.

My thought is that on the front the line you take is important, but it seemed like it was more about knowing what row of cedars you wanted or didn't want your disc to land behind.  I tried to play a few on the back, but never found hole 10.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on September 20, 2012, 09:02:40 AM
Yes, the signs on the front need to be updated. There is an alternate pad on #1, #2 and #4 along with alternate pins on #1, #3, #4, #5, #6 and #9. Not finding #10 isn't unusual. It's 720' and not visible until you get quite a ways up the fairway. We're working on sign updates and will hopefully have them in place by the 6th.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: asjzn6 on September 20, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
Any Caddy tips on holes?
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: kevweiss on October 01, 2012, 10:35:24 PM
have your caddy bring a weed eater for the back 9, I really hope it gets a good brushhog/mowing this week. The wife and I played  it Saturday. also have your caddy teach you how to straddle putt out of a cedar tree.......wish we were goin back to Marshall because unless a lot of work is done this week, clover dell is not ready for a state championship. We also need the option to drive off of the grass on the back nine next to the wood chips for safety reasons.
Title: Re: Tricky holes
Post by: Kevin Montgomery on October 02, 2012, 09:27:11 AM
have your caddy bring a weed eater for the back 9, I really hope it gets a good brushhog/mowing this week. The wife and I played  it Saturday. also have your caddy teach you how to straddle putt out of a cedar tree.......wish we were goin back to Marshall because unless a lot of work is done this week, clover dell is not ready for a state championship. We also need the option to drive off of the grass on the back nine next to the wood chips for safety reasons.

I agree completely. I do know that a lot of mowing will be done this week but I was concerned when I heard they wanted to use Clover Dell for the State Championships that the course was not ready for prime time. That's why I hadn't had any tourneys there yet myself. I doubt they will do anything about the back nine tee boxes and I won't have time to do any touch ups to them this week at all. As for teeing from beside or behind the wood chips, I think that should definitely be allowed and mentioned at the player meeting.

As busy as the parks department in Sedalia has been with other projects this summer, and as busy as I have been over the last two months, not a lot has been done to make Clover Dell ready for such an event. I hope people realize that having this event at Clover Dell was not my idea. I have been spearheading getting the course in the ground over the last few years but it's been a slow go and there's a reason no formal events have been planned there by me. I did do several hours of work a couple of weeks ago to clean up around #10 green and #14 green and the safe route on #14. I've also been working with Dick and Tracy on updating the front nine tee signs and getting formal tee signs for the back. Whether I will have them all updated by Saturday remains to be seen. At the very least we should have all of the front nine updated and temporary signs with more details for the back nine.

Like many disc golf courses, the first few years can be awkward depending on time and effort available from the parks department and local players. Since disc golf is relatively new to the Sedalia area I haven't had a lot of help from other players but that trend is changing and I have heard from several local players lately offering to help. Unfortunately that hasn't been in time to get much done before Saturday's event.

But, knowing that the parks department has every intention of making the park look good for this event and future events I think you can be assured that they will be doing a good mow throughout the course before Saturday. I was out there yesterday around noon and the mowers were working on the front nine already and over the last few weeks they have been brush hogging a wider area of the back.