Dude, have you seen it out there lately? What a mess. Those people in that neighborhood don't deserve anyone coming out there to break a sweat for them anymore. There's a disc golf course there as a result of lots of peoples' hard work but other than that, what difference has any of it made out there? And then there's the work you'll do that'll end up being pointless when someone decides to put a bike trail in. I've had it up to here. You go ahead and put your work in at Cliff only to have some dirtbag sh1t all over it again afterwards. There are other places where your work will be better appreciated and the fruits of which might actually last.