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Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« on: February 03, 2014, 03:09:13 PM »
If you really want to be technical, drinking home made beer outside of the brewer's home is illegal in Kansas.  To submit homebrewed beer to a competition is also illegal.

Kansas home brewers have been working with an attorney to change the laws regarding this. 

THE BILL IS UP FOR VOTING TUESDAY, FEB. 4TH

If you live in Kansas, please take 10 minutes to send your representative an email asking him to vote yes to this bill.

the KS vote for homebrew legislation changes could happen this coming week, you need to contact your
reps and senators if you want to make this happen. Dont put it off, do it today.

here is how to find out your ks rep and senator email address using your home address
http://openkansas.org/

Easy steps:
1. Look up your representative here:

http://openkansas.org/

Scroll down until you find "Kansas Representative"

(or use this link which is the actual state link but harder to use:
Link to Representatives info, http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2013_1 ... se/roster/)


2. Send him/her an email.

As the subject line, use "House Substitute HB 2223"

Address the email as:

"To the Honorable (Representative's name),"

if that is too awkward, use, "Dear Representative (full name)"

Ask them to:

Please support House Sub. for HB 2223 when it appears above the line for floor debate and action.
Please ask their fellow legislators to vote for this bill,
To contact Senators they know to support the bill when it arrives there.

This is what I wrote:

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As a constituent in your area, I ask that you support House Substitute HB 2223.  I believe this bill to be representative of individuals in our area and is inline with our current culture.  It is time to make sharing homebrew with our invited guests legal.
 
(n) "Guest" means a natural person who is known to the host and
receives a personal invitation to an event conducted by the host. The term
"guest" shall not mean a natural person who receives an invitation to an
event conducted by the host when such invitation has been made available
to the general public.
(b) the making of wine, cider or beer by a person from fruits,
vegetables or grains, or the product thereof, by simple fermentation and
without distillation, if it is made solely for the use of the maker and, the maker's family,
 guests and judges at a contest or competition of such
beverages, provided, the maker receives no compensation for producing
such beverages or for allowing the consumption thereof


At the end of the email, take responsibility for your request.  You are appealing to your Governmental
representative that is in office whether you voted for them or not.

I ended mine with:

Thank you,
 
Rob Martin
(actual address)
Lawrence, KS 66046
(mobile phone number - optional)

If this sounds too complicated, then just email them and ask them to vote yes for House Sub for HB2223


3. Let our attorney know you sent the email so he can follow up.  For me, I just did a BCC with his email address.

Philip Bradley
pbb@sunflower.com
785-766-7492

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Please ask them to send me a quick email of who they have contacted and I will follow up.
Remember to mention this is a substitute bill that is an agreed to compromise that only allows the below mentioned activities.
FYI- link to bill (http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2013_1 ... 1_0000.pdf ), the significant parts are below and attached is the actual substitute bill. Please note last year, Jason(Asst. Revisor) modified the language both in the definition of “guest” and in 41-104 from what he received from Walter(ABC).


Thanks.

Prost!

Rob

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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2014, 04:33:18 PM »
This makes me wish I still lived in KS!  :(

I will try and get Chris in on this as he lives on the other side of the state line. He also brews a little so this would be up his alley!
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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2014, 05:35:09 PM »
KS legislature is closed Tuesday due to weather. Scheduled to be on the floor Wednesday AM.
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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2014, 06:45:14 PM »
Done, thanks for the reminder Rob. If you are a Kansan who enjoys beer you should do this too.

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2014, 07:29:48 PM »
Careful Rob, there's a few admitted dime droppers on this site and also one guy in particular who has dialed 911 over far less important matters. ;D
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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 09:05:22 AM »
seems only fair for a state that tolerates flamin fred felps and tries to repeal evolution to cut its citizens some slack and pass this legislation.

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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 10:54:26 AM »
I don't always vote, but when I do, I vote for dos equis
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Re: Did you like my homebrew? Please help...
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2014, 11:59:20 AM »
Thanks for the heads-up.  Message sent.

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2014, 03:31:52 PM »
Sub HB 2223 was just passed to Final Action by voice vote. Congratulations! This is the next step, there will be a FA(Final Action) vote on Monday, if/when it passes it is on to the Senate. Time to renew messages to the Senate Federal and State Affairs committee and the entire Senate.

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 12:35:08 PM »
Thought I would provide an update.  This bill finally passed and was signed into law effective April 24.  The most important part of the bill is this:

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The following changes were made:
1. Homemade fermented beverages may be provided to guests and judges at a contest or competition so long as no compensation is provided to the maker either for producing the beverage or allowing its consumption. The term “guest” is defined as a natural person known to the host and who received a private invitation to the event conducted by the host. That definition of “guest” is restricted to this section only. Prior to this change, homemakers of beer and wine were limited to serving their product to family members only. Amends K.S.A. 41-104.


In the picture below, Jeff Gill, the owner of Tall Grass Brewery who started as a homebrewer in college is in a white shirt on the right.

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