When compiling the list of courses in KC, the Detonator left off the particularly important course of Down Under. Some think it is developed and others think it is not. I mentioned that it is a full course, and I would definitely say that it has a lot of trash cans, moreso than some courses. I love a lot of the tee pads too. The cliff one is outstanding and concrete tee pads (plastic surgery) would destroy that as well as many other amazing places to tee off. I kinda like the natural pads. Sure, signs would be cool, so we could see the distances of the placements, and during tournaments, newbies could see where the pin is, how far, etc. You are right in saying more people play there in the winter. I know lots of rec players (oops, isn't it "enthusiasts" now?) love it as well as players of all levels. When I said it wasn't fully developed, I guess I meant the tee signs, mostly. Maybe a little clearing of ground cover and brush, but not too much, because that is what makes it so great. I know in Iowa, their Walnut Ridge (I think that is what it is called) is very Down Underesque, and that is what inspired me to play Down Under so much more.