Hummel's only been playing for a year, maybe a little longer, right? Palmer, how many times have you won Advanced with a score that would have taken 2nd or 3rd in Open? You seem to consistently shoot at or around par, correct? (Ever since I joined this forum and started watching league scores, anyway...) You can call Hummel a bagger if ya want, but let's not misappropriate your "biggest bagger" label...