there's 2 types of turbo: John J, and Jay R use the dart turbo, keeping the disc in front of the body with very little "backswing", and very little distance to it, but accurate with muscle memory. Mark M. and myself use a softball throw, drawing the disc behind the shoulder and pushing with full extension, and can reach 40-50 ft on a good day. both techniques require a last second twist on release to give the disc spin. it's a great putt and very rarely goes into 3 putt range, i use it infrequently now, since my backhand putts have improved, and the reliability has waned, but it's a great putt to have, as is the sidearm putt. opposite hand putting is also a great putt to learn, especially sidearm as it will get you out of some gnarly predicaments. Derek R uses a scooby turbo that helixes, go figure.