Timko, i hope that you appreciate my daring rescue of your disc at Young park. I carefully/foolishly went out onto the ice and rescued your disc. It was partly frozen into the ice but i managed to get it out. Having the ponds frozen over sure makes you go for it on 7 and 10, especially 10. I love throwing that hole with the ice becuase you can go wide left or straight at it over the ice.