soooo, the most fun does not necessarily win? varying par was invented for fools who chase little white balls across expensive fairways in the pursuit of social acceptance. lose the ball golf mentality, discs were invented to paint the sky and the ground, albeit for a few glamorous seconds, culminating in the putting attempt that tests one mettle against metal. you can quote me on that, and the fact that any number, other than 54, is not a par for 18 holes. disc golf had par 72 courses at inception, just 24 holes, because our game is 133% improved over ball golf in the "par" department, and light years beyond mastadon-pie golf of yore. when are we going to have that fountain fixed up by 16?