1. Hole 5 on the east course is obviously a tough design with a ballgame going on. No doubt just an oversite.
2. Hole 6. I'm sure the designers liked this one but in my opinion it was long for the sake of being long. I think it would play well moving the target up, giving the longer guys a chance at the two but still bringing bogey into play by going for it--either from the courts or OB over the dike. Oh, and I would move the target closer to the OB, like hole 8. Also it wouldn't necessarily be a gimme three for lower divisions.
3. 11? The long righty. Just my opinion, it looks like some real thought went into it, but I didn't like it. I'm sure it produced a real variety of scores but I'm wondering how big a variety. But bet it was a bunch. Seems to me it could be moved up and tucked right , giving a reasonable chance at the two with a great drive but also still with peril right and serious approach trouble left.
4. 15. Obviously simply open and relativity long with wind in play. Is there no way to play through the trees after 14? Maybe you were trying to eliminate a walk?
5. I prefer the Sunday hole 8 around to the right past the trees. Still tough with a good spread of scores and a bit less interference with 9.
6. In genearl the speed of play thing can be tough on Sunday. I'm not against longer holes at all and overall the Sunday setup is great, I would just suggest thinking about some of those longer holes and flow of play.
OK, here we go. The designer was me, so don't worry about offending me. I like the feedback and always try to take it into consideration. My replies will be what I was thinking as I designed the hole.
Hole 5- WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!!! I figured college baseball was in the spring. We will reserve the other park and play the hole we didn't instead. It was a much better hole.
Hole 6- I figured most players were going to be forced to lay-up. The longer throwers were going to have the over the court option. I think if the tee was back another 40 feet, bombers may think twice. I wanted to give the lefty hyzer the best shot off the tee, which it was (I went roller). Then have the right hyzer be the shot towards the pin. I also didn't want it to be a drive putt hole. We have enough of those in disc golf. I actually loved this hole and had the following scores on my card. (Ring 3 flick+ backhand, Smitty 4 Roller + flick because of fence + 40 foot putt (near OB parking lot)+ Drop in, Pete 5 Hyzer ofer court OB + hyzer + 40 footer + drop in. Nate Martin 5 Roller, hyzer from same spot as me short arm OB, 150 foot hyzer, 25 foot putt.
Hole 11- Wanted another 2 shot hole. All it took was 250 straight 200 straight and you were on the pin. Many people told me it was their favorite hole on the course. I liked the way it played and I had a 3, 4, 4, and 5 on my card. I do wish the trees were higher on the second shot.
Hole 15B- Actually wasn't going to be a hole. It replaced the hole we didn't get to play. It was just a linker that did break up what would have been a horrible walk. I actually think it will stay as a hole. I have played much worse holes for sure, they cannot all be spectacular.
I agree with you 100% on hole 8. I would have much rather played it around the bend. The locals seem to love that hole and since it was the monster course it was given to them as a compromise.
I also agree with you about tees on Sunday and flow/speed of play. That has always been a problem in Hays. The things I didn't care for.
Hole 1's tee and 3's basket.
8's basket and 9's tee.
9's basket and 10's tee.
10's basket and 9's basket were to close together.
12's tee was probably getting hyzers dropped on their head all day.
15's basket and 16's drop zone/ walk zone
16's basket and 17's tee
18's tee and 17's drive
Trying to play all the original holes was one thing that drove hole choice this year. We played all of them except for 18. The monster course was will always be a flow problem (typical to the Hays course) if it remains the monster course meaning long. I was actually referring to it as that because of 24 holes.
Thanks for the feedback.