we got some ivy but what course doesn't. The pe teacher, Bill Lentz, is a super hard worker and has been spraying like crazy. Many short pads for the kids, but we ran out of steam and some holes only have one pad. The great thing about the land is that there are huge open football and lacrosse fields mowed short all year long to practice throwing bombs. You do not have to worry about losing discs in tall grass or walking around forever searching for your sprayed shots. Then head into woods and do some short game work.