First let me say that hole 12 in the long position is freakin' awesome, I love it. With that, I can't see any way possible getting a birdie on that hole unless it is a lucky second shot over the treeline that crashes the chains, or very lucky shot through a 5' wide low ceiling tunnel. Either way they are not putts on the second shot, they are throws. This would lead me to believe it is more of a par 4. Just my thoughts and opinion, but like I said, I love Birdland and I love the new pin positions.