I used the think it might be nice to get paid entry into the league, for running league. The more I've thought about it though, I don't thnk ANY incentives should be made available to the league directors. In my opinion, the folks that volunteer and do things for the Club and for the greater Disc Golf good aren't doing it for stuff.
I also think making the work seem more attractive by offering perks won't draw "better" volunteers, only greedier ones.
Agreed. I have ran leagues over the years because I love to help out the club. Incentives to run league or being paid, sorry John, I don't agree with. The issue really comes down to why is their time more valuable than anyone else that does the work?
It takes at most 2 hours to run leagues. That is getting there say 45 minutes early, staying 60 minutes later (Thanks CD) and then spending about 15 minutes on the spreadsheet if you do a full blown one. You could count in there the time to deposit at the nearest bank, but I bet if you asked one of the board members to deposit your money for you they would.
I understand that you feel that asking people to volunteer is too much, but that is the instance of the all volunteer organization. The only paid position in my mind should be a CPA for the club in the future to ensure that we are fiscally accountable when it becomes a 501c.....
The notion that those running league get a fee pass though nice, alienates those that do work that don't get credit....when we were out at Blue Valley on Monday Kreeger was out there hard at work, and I mean hard, guess what, that was a Monday, he will be out there on Tuesday, on Thursday, probably Saurday...so does he get nothing because he works 3-5 hours a day at the park 3-4x week?
Do we only incentivize those that bring financial input to the club? Then why wouldn't I be so for the grants that come into the club? Why not Rick and DD for the memberships that they take at the stores?
Only those that enter information in the computer?
I get what you are saying that there should be a carrot, the issue is if you aren't charging for your own disc golf design work, which should be paid, why would you desire to pay those that volunteer a few hours a week on something that they already love, or wouldn't be doing?http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volunteer?s=t
a person who performs a service willingly and without pay.
If you don't want to do it, DON'T volunteer. Also though if you don't volunteer, I really don't feel that you have any right to complain. I volunteer, so I complain, and I do so very loud, but then that is me, and most know this.
It's not that I don't think that our volunteers shouldn't be given things, so please don't read it that way, the issue again with me personally, is why limit the volunteers to one option. This is the option of the league runners, I think a few weeks back it was the people that work on the course....the people behind the scenes get very little attention again, but I hope you can see that ultimately it takes a wide assortment of people to make this work, and realistically we need more help.
Wouldn't it be better if we had different people running leagues monthly? Every month a new person steps up to help?
Wouldn't it be great if we had multiple people pick up trash every week?
Wouldn't it be nice if we had others that went out to help trim and prune in conjunction with the design of the course?
The issue is that we tend to (not always, but TEND) to let and have the same people do the work, and that is what truly hurts volunteerism. If no one else steps up, people do get tired, even paying them they get tired, so why not just instead of offering to pay just volunteer to help?
John you do a lot, and I am not directing this at you, but rather the notion, so I hope you don't take this as a chide against you, it is merely again the stance that I take, and it's my stance.
It really though in my mind boils down to how do you define volunteerism, and if you pay people, then we need to raise the fees to pay them, and who do we pay, and how and at what rate? Capitalism at its finest at that point should come into play.....I want more than others and I think that I am worth it! (Please note sarcasm was ON in that last statement!)